[DeTomaso] F1 Experience
Gray Gregory
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Wed Dec 11 07:06:25 EST 2013
From: Gray Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:06 AM
To: 'Jack Donahue'
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
Yes the infamous Gurney bubble! I have copied him and installed one on my B16 so I can fit... Brilliant!!!
Gray
From: Jack Donahue [mailto:demongusta at me.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:32 PM
To: Gray Gregory
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
The GT40 that Gurney drove had a bubble in the roof so he could fit into it.
On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Gray Gregory wrote:
From: Gray Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:27 PM
To: 'michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>'
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
All the old time drivers I've met (except Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt) have been pretty small so I think they would probably fit fine. I've also tried to get into a lot of old F1 cars and I haven't found one yet I can fit into very well, so the cars weren't very big either. :>)
As for the power steering, yes the modern cars do but they also make a lot more down force and have much more grip, so "man handling" one through a fast sweeper is still probably pretty much the same or maybe even harder today...
Gray
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:30 PM
To: LS
Cc: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>; jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>; pantera at austin.rr.com<mailto:pantera at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
Most certainly do not have the balls the way they whine, in the glory years of F1, there was 10% chance you would die
during a race, Thank goodness Jackie Stewart and others implements safety measures that have evolved to the
current streak of deathless seasons ( Since Senna)
Modern F1 cars have power steering ( for a car that weighs 1,600ish lbs ) in a time limited race with a shorter courses.
I'd bet that none of the 50's,60 era drivers that could manhandle those cars could fit in a modern car.
Michael
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>> wrote:
It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals.
New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world class athletes with baby bumps.
Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to drive the old cars?
Some do, some don't...
LS
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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>" <michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>
To: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>>
Cc: "jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>" <jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>; "lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>" <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>; "pantera at austin.rr.com<mailto:pantera at austin.rr.com>" <pantera at austin.rr.com<mailto:pantera at austin.rr.com>>; "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs.
Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost dead when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.
The old guard would never be able to get into the these new cars and I doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older cars.
Michael
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>> wrote:
There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your
Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it can do. I love the Daytona road course.
Mark
On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>" <jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny drivers could fit in their display car- all women. Things must have changed.... Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit today, either! Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke
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From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com<mailto:pantera at austin.rr.com>>; deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
Sounds amazing...any pics or video?
Thanks,
LS
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From: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com<mailto:pantera at austin.rr.com>>
To: deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
All,
I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas, was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1 track). Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.
We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the afternoon session which was dry, and we rode on slicks. The morning was wet, but they still ran the cars, only on full wets.
I can't tell you how incredible the experience was. I strongly recommend signing up. I understand they're coming back to COTA tentatively on 22 March and 20 October. I originally thought it was a bit expensive-I don't anymore. It was worth every penny.
Richard
Austin, TX
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