[DeTomaso] Fwd: F1 Experience

Tue Dec 10 20:36:08 EST 2013

Check this out.
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKL4N0HT2PA20131003?irpc=932
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From: "Gray Gregory" <rgg at gregorycook.com>
Date: Dec 10, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:

*From:* Gray Gregory
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:27 PM
*To:* 'michael at michaelshortt.com'
*Subject:* RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

All the old time drivers I’ve met (except Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt) have
been pretty small so I think they would probably fit fine. I’ve also tried
to get into a lot of old F1 cars and I haven’t found one yet I can fit into
very well, so the cars weren’t very big either. :>)

As for the power steering, yes the modern cars do but they also make a lot
more down force and have much more grip, so “man handling” one through a
fast sweeper is still probably pretty much the same or maybe even harder
today…

Gray

*From:* DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] *On Behalf Of *
michael at michaelshortt.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:30 PM
*To:* LS
*Cc:* detomaso at poca.com; jderyke at aol.com; pantera at austin.rr.com
*Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Most certainly do not have the balls the way they whine, in the glory years
of F1, there was 10% chance you would die

during a race, Thank goodness Jackie Stewart and others implements safety
measures that have evolved to the

current streak of deathless seasons ( Since Senna)

Modern F1 cars have power steering ( for a car that weighs 1,600ish lbs )
in a time limited race with a shorter courses.

I'd bet that none of the  50's,60 era drivers that could manhandle those
cars could fit in a modern car.

Michael

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals.

New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world
class athletes with baby bumps.

Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to drive
the old cars?

Some do, some don't...

LS

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*From:* "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
*To:* mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
*Cc:* "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>; "lashdeep at yahoo.com" <
lashdeep at yahoo.com>; "pantera at austin.rr.com" <pantera at austin.rr.com>; "
detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM

*Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs.

Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost dead
when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.

The old guard would never be able to get into the these new  cars and I
doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older cars.

Michael

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your

Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it can
do. I love the Daytona road course.

Mark

On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>
wrote:

Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi
factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny drivers
could fit in their display car- all women. Things must have changed....
Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit
today, either!  Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke

-----Original Message-----
From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>; deTomaso Forum <
detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Sounds amazing...any pics or video?

Thanks,
LS

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*From:* Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>
*To:* deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM
*Subject:* [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

All,

I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas,
was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1
track).  Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.

We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the afternoon
session which was dry, and we rode on slicks.  The morning was wet, but
they still ran the cars, only on full wets.

I can't tell you how incredible the experience was.  I strongly recommend
signing up.  I understand they're coming back to COTA tentatively on 22
March and 20 October.  I originally thought it was a bit expensive—I don't
anymore.  It was worth every penny.

Richard

Austin, TX

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