[DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Tue Dec 10 19:45:20 EST 2013

To throw another stone in the water:  if you agree that saying that most of the best athletes in pro sports are "Black," is not a racists comment, then whenever blacks get into auto racing (or pro bicycles, e.g.)  the athletic ability in those sports will go up a big notch.  New records will be broken.   ----BILL Lewis

From: rgg at gregorycook.com
To: lashdeep at yahoo.com; michael at michaelshortt.com; ehpantera at yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 00:14:19 +0000
CC: detomaso at poca.com; jderyke at aol.com; pantera at austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

I would go one step further and say the modern drivers could all drive the old cars and probably better than the drivers of old did. Bottom line is these guys
 are just much better athletes. Modern fitness and training programs have made these guys stronger, fitter, given them more stamina and better hand eye coordination; as I said just all around better athletes! The only question mark I would have is the safety
 factor. Would these guys still push 100% knowing a crash could very likely be deadly?

Now of course the flip side of that is that if we knew then what we know now about fitness and racing the old drivers would have trained hard too and the top
 drivers would have been just as fit as today’s top guys. The top drivers of any era are always the guys with the most talent and the strongest work ethic and that fact will never change!

Gray

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On Behalf Of LS

Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:11 PM

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Cc: detomaso at poca.com; jderyke at aol.com; pantera at austin.rr.com

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals. 

New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world class athletes with baby bumps.

Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to drive the old cars?

Some do, some don't...

LS

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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>

To: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> 

Cc: "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>; "lashdeep at yahoo.com" <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; "pantera at austin.rr.com" <pantera at austin.rr.com>; "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>

Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs.

Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost dead when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.

The old guard would never be able to get into the these new  cars and I doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older cars.

Michael

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your

Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it can do. I love the Daytona road course.

Mark

On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>
 wrote:

Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny drivers could
 fit in their display car- all women. Things must have changed.... Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit today, either!  Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke

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From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>

To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>; deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>

Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Sounds amazing...any pics or video?

Thanks,

LS

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From: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>

To: deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>

Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM

Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

All,

I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas, was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1 track).
  Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.

We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the afternoon session which was dry, and we rode on slicks.  The morning was wet, but
 they still ran the cars, only on full wets.

I can't tell you how incredible the experience was.  I strongly recommend signing up.  I understand they're coming back to COTA tentatively on 22 March
 and 20 October.  I originally thought it was a bit expensive—I don't anymore.  It was worth every penny.

Richard

Austin, TX

#7080  

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