[DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Tue Dec 10 19:32:49 EST 2013

I had a summer job back in college in the '60's, driving a Ready-Mix concrete truck -  it did NOT have power steering.  Took a man to drive that sucker!!!    ---Bill (used to be a man) Lewis

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:16:44 -0800
From: lashdeep at yahoo.com
To: michael at michaelshortt.com
CC: detomaso at poca.com; jderyke at aol.com; pantera at austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Modern cars are easier to drive...no doubt about that. 

Were all of the old drivers big? 

All of the guys I've met (Parnelli, Jackie, Emerson, Folmer, etc.) were not and very slim during their driving years. 

Sure, there were exceptions like Mark Donohue, but even tall guys like Gurney were very slender.

Regular people like us are seriously fat in the US...we can't even fit into a stadium bleacher let alone an F1 car.

LS

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        From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
 To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> 
Cc: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>; "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>; "pantera at austin.rr.com"
 <pantera at austin.rr.com>; "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
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Most certainly do not have the balls the way they whine, in the glory years of F1, there was 10% chance you would die during a race, Thank goodness Jackie Stewart and others implements safety measures that have evolved to the

current streak of deathless seasons ( Since Senna)Modern F1 cars have power steering ( for a car that weighs 1,600ish lbs ) in a time limited race with a shorter courses.I'd bet that none of the  50's,60 era drivers that could manhandle those cars could fit in a modern car.

MichaelOn Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals. New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world class athletes with baby bumps.Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to drive the old cars?

Some do, some don't...LS 

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   From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>

 To: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> Cc: "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>; "lashdeep at yahoo.com" <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; "pantera at austin.rr.com" <pantera at austin.rr.com>; "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 

 Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience  

 The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs.Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost dead when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.

The old guard would never be able to get into the these new  cars and I doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older cars.Michael

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it can do. I love the Daytona road course. 

Mark   

    On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:

 Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny drivers could fit in their display car- all women. Things must have changed.... Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit today, either!  Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke

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From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>; deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>

Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Sounds amazing...any pics or video?

Thanks,
LS

central 

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washington, dc 20004

centralwines.com

facebook.com/CentralLiquors 

202-737-2800

    From: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>

 To: deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com> 
 Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM
 Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

All,

I was very surprised that  no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas, was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1 track).  Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.

We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the afternoon session which was dry, and we rode on slicks.  The morning was wet, but they still ran the cars, only on full wets.

I can't tell you how incredible the experience was.  I strongly recommend signing up.  I understand they're coming back to COTA tentatively on 22 March and 20 October.  I originally thought it was a bit expensive—I don't anymore.  It was worth every  penny.

Richard

Austin, TX

#7080  

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