[DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Tue Dec 10 13:41:10 EST 2013

I did not have any problem muscling the 500hp rev limited car at Charlotte.  No power steering...  The problem was getting my left leg, the one with the arthritic hip, up and through the window!

Ronald M. Fogle
President
Cuyahoga Valley Management, Inc.

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From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; jderyke <jderyke at aol.com>; pantera <pantera at austin.rr.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Most certainly do not have the balls the way they whine, in the glory years of F1, there was 10% chance you would die  
during a race, Thank goodness Jackie Stewart and others implements safety measures that have evolved to the
current streak of deathless seasons ( Since Senna)
Modern F1 cars have power steering ( for a car that weighs 1,600ish lbs ) in a time limited race with a shorter courses.
I'd bet that none of the  50's,60 era drivers that could manhandle those cars could fit in a modern car.

Michael

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals. 

New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world class athletes with baby bumps.

Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to drive the old cars?

Some do, some don't... 

LS

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wines-spirits   est 1934

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washington, dc 20004

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facebook.com/CentralLiquors 

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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
To: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>; "lashdeep at yahoo.com" <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; "pantera at austin.rr.com" <pantera at austin.rr.com>; "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs. 
Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost dead when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.

The old guard would never be able to get into the these new  cars and I doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older cars.

Michael

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your 
Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it can do. I love the Daytona road course. 
Mark

On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:

Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny drivers could fit in their display car- all women. Things must have changed.... Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit today, either!  Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke

-----Original Message-----
From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>; deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Sounds amazing...any pics or video?

Thanks,
LS

central 
wines-spirits   est 1934

625 e street nw

washington, dc 20004

centralwines.com

facebook.com/CentralLiquors 

202-737-2800

From: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>
To: deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience

All,

I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas, was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1 track).  Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.

We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the afternoon session which was dry, and we rode on slicks.  The morning was wet, but they still ran the cars, only on full wets.

I can't tell you how incredible the experience was.  I strongly recommend signing up.  I understand they're coming back to COTA tentatively on 22 March and 20 October.  I originally thought it was a bit expensive—I don't anymore.  It was worth every penny.

Richard
Austin, TX
#7080  

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