[DeTomaso] Cleveland Fuel Pumps

mark skwarek ehpantera at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 8 18:34:47 EST 2013


Chuck,

I've been running the Robb Mc Performance  550HP fuel pump for a few years and couldn't be more pleased. 

I don't know what the spring pressure they use and how it compares to the stock pump but seems to be a bit stronger.  This could lead to the eccentric drive on the cam gear. I had the cam drive pin fail earlier in the year. The base of the eccentric was bowed a bit. The end result was that the drive pin failed and some carnage in  the engine (2 broken valves). Fortunately the block was ok and the heads needed 2 new valve seats.  

At one time there was a solid eccentric made but I have not been able to locate one. There is also a roller bearing eccentric: http://www.hipoparts.com/ford-roller-bearing-fuel-pump-eccentric-kit-w-arp-pro-series-bolt/

Please be advised that the Cleveland and Windsor eccentrics are DIFFERENT. 

Mark



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 5:22 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
  
Dear Jack,
 
 
                      Yes, they both list mechanical Cleveland pumps on their websites, but they are the of the standard plain vanilla stock type.   Fine for most uses, but their gph is too modest for the planned engine.  
 
 
                                      Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
 
 
 
 
                                   
 
From:DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of jderyke at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:15 PM
To: DtomasoCat at aol.com; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Fuel Pumps
 
.........My Google search shows that the only mechanical pump for  a
>Cleveland engine is from Robb Mc Performance.  They offer two quality  
>units.
>One supports 1100 hp and is $300!   The other for lesser  racers supports 
>550
>hp and is only  $200.
Google is not quite omniscent yet. Both Summit and Jegs list a 351-C mechanical pump in their current catalogues. I haven't actually called to check their stock, though. And a certain stock Ford electric fuel pump can be installed in-tank with some craftsmanship. Running inside the tank as a pusher, vapor lock is a thing of the past and in-tank pumps run very quietly. I cannot say that about the two brands of external electric pumps I've used in the past though!. My Ford in-tank pump has been working for 7 years now and requires zero tank mods but some work on the stock sender. FWIW- J Deryke
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: DtomasoCat <DtomasoCat at aol.com>
To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 7:35 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Fuel Pumps
Dear Forum,
.........My Google search shows that the only mechanical pump for  a
Cleveland engine is from Robb Mc Performance.  They offer two quality  
units.
One supports 1100 hp and is $300!   The other for lesser  racers supports 
550
hp and is only  $200.   
 
Unless there is an overlooked source or stock of unwanted and
unsold hipo  Cleveland fuel pumps out there, I will shortly be ordering a
very serious  fuel  pump.
 
Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
Chuck,
If you would like to consider a second option you might want to  look into 
an electric fuel pump.  Simple to install and you don't need a  huge pump 
either (no matter what anyone says).  I installed a  standard "universal" 
electric fuel pump many years ago that I purchased from  Autozone for something 
like $49.  It is compact in size (less than 2" in  diameter and 2" in 
length) but feeds plenty of fuel.  My engine dynoed at  540hp and it is run 
quite 
"spiritedly" and has no issues whatsoever with fuel  starvation.  Oh, the 
pump is feeding a Demon 750 double  pumper.
Your mileage will vary.
Jim
 
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