[DeTomaso] NPC: Fast and Furious crash site....

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 08:06:30 EST 2013


There was a video of the crash last night on the news ­ from a security
camera across the street.  It didn't show the cars.  It just showed the
light pole getting knocked down, and the tree getting struck.

Granted, the video didn't show much, but it didn't look like a violent
crash.

Then there were the stupid comments about how it took several seconds until
they saw smoke.  Most people think cars blow up on impact like they do in
Hollywood.

I feel bad for everyone involved.  Sure, there were some stupid mistakes
made, but this was a tragedy on several levels.
--
Will

From:  "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
Date:  Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:02 PM
To:  Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc:  Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>, John
Zeedick <pantera351c at hotmail.com>
Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Fast and Furious crash site....

Thanks, It also appears that one pays for the privilege of Mo'Power ( just
like here), we taught them well.

Michael




On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Michael,
>  
> Those links are related to motorcycles on freeways not general restrictions on
> size or speed. It makes total sense that a low cc motorcycle (or moped) is not
> permitted on Freeways where it does not have the speed capacity to go with thr
> general flow of traffic, that has always been the case in the UK.
> 
> Also the UK (and looks like Japan) has staged motorcycle licensing, you can
> learn on a 125cc, then having passed a test you are allowed up to a 400cc for
> time period before unlimited. It stops 16 yr old kids going out and buying a
> Yamaha R1or some other crotch rocket when they have just stepped off a 125cc
> restricted class.
>  
> Julian
>  
> 
> From: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:43:18 -0500
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> CC: Pantera351C at hotmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Fast and Furious crash site....
> 
> Looks like you can have more, if you can afford it.
> http://www.thejapanfaq.com/bikerfaq-classes.html
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com
> <michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_motorcycle_access_on_freeways
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com
>> <michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>>> http://www8.cao.go.jp/kisei-kaikaku/oto/otodb/english/mondai/subject/1994003
>>> 03.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Not true. I go to Japan all the time. You can buy a 200 mph Ferrari or a
>>>> super bike any day of the week...
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:16, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
>>>> <michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> and I think that most motorcycles their are limited to 125cc,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> They have already done it in japan most cars are limited to 180 KMH which
>>>>>> is around 112 mph.
>>>>>> Boyd
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I just hope this blows over without too much media attention.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I already had one person at work say, "Why do people need to buy cars
>>>>>>> that go that fast anyway?"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of course, it started a 30 minute discussion about how I like driving my
>>>>>>> Viper to work every day, and that just because it will go close to
>>>>>>> 200mph, I never drive that fast.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Someday, though, there's going to be a national push to speed limit
>>>>>>> these super cars.  I know it's going to happen, because I saw James T.
>>>>>>> Kirk driving a Corvette that was not speed limited.  So all of the other
>>>>>>> cars on the road must be limited somehow.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From:  John Zeedick <Pantera351C at Hotmail.Com>
>>>>>>> Date:  Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:02 PM
>>>>>>> To:  Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <detomaso at POCA.com>
>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] NPC:  Fast and Furious crash site....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TMZ has a video from a security camera of the car crashing, interesting
>>>>>>> he was going through a right-hand sweeper........perhaps he bounced off
>>>>>>> the outside curbing?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John²I learned my lesson with mid-engine cars long ago²Z
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12/3/13 10:07 PM, "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take a look at the crash site on Google Earth:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/kdcomk5
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Doesn't seem like an appropriate place to be travelling at triple-digit
>>>>>>> speeds, does it?   Especially with people around.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Based on the speed and violence of the crash, I can only assume that he
>>>>>>> was approaching from the south, and lost it at the exit of the long RH
>>>>>>> sweeper, and spun into the tree on the inside of the 'track' at corner
>>>>>>> exit.   No way he could have attained that kind of velocity going the
>>>>>>> other way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mind you, if he had made the corner, he was going to have to seriously
>>>>>>> honk on the brakes to make the 90-degree corner in front of him!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
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