[DeTomaso] NPC - jump starting a car

[Jeff Cobb]

Charles,

>  I assumed that even with a battery that has reached the end of its useful life, connecting a good battery would always allow you to start the car, at least that time.

Not true as dead is dead.
This is not like a Frankenstein movie.
But now you can say, "He is alive!".

Jeff Cobb

On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:04 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the replies all. Just to confirm, Jeff, this battery was treated poorly. The car would sit for 6 months without starting it once (literally), I'd completely charge the battery and it would sit for another 4 months before being started again. It isn't that old - perhaps 4-5 years, but in 4-5 years the car was literally used 4-5 times. The battery discharged significantly before each use. It was the cheapest battery available at the time of purchase (based on the use the car had)
>  
> I bought a new battery and the car starts as advertised, so the battery did effectively die. This was not surprising, but what was surprising was that I couldn't jump start the car... I assumed that even with a battery that has reached the end of its useful life, connecting a good battery would always allow you to start the car, at least that time.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
> Charles,
> 
> Treating a battery well does not mean that it will not die.
> You can't jump start it because it has sulfated or has an internal open which has caused too much resistance for proper volts to flow.
> Jump starting a bad battery does not make a bad battery good.
> You have a bad battery.
> 
> Jeff Cobb
> 
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Michael, I don't discount your statement - the battery has not been treated
> > well and may be at the end of its life. By why couldn't I jump start it?
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My money says the battery is shot.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> Just went through this with moho, similar symptoms and new batts (3)
> >> fixed all.
> >> On Aug 26, 2013 6:31 AM, "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The car in question hadn't been started in literally 3 months. I went to
> >>> start it on Thursday and the battery was discharged. I hooked a trickle
> >>> charger up to it overnight, and Friday morning the car started just fine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I drove the car during the day, had no trouble starting it on the 4-5
> >>> occasions I had to start it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today, Sunday, two days later the car wouldn't start again (I was going to
> >>> move it to hook the trickle charger up to it and let it charge for a week
> >>> or
> >>> however long it takes to completely charge). I got some jumper cables and
> >>> am
> >>> trying to start the car but it won't turn over.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When I turn the key, the interior light goes out which indicates to me
> >>> that
> >>> the battery is discharged. I hooked up the jumper cables and the car still
> >>> won't turn over (and the interior light goes out).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If I turn the headlights on on the car with the dead battery, I can see
> >>> that
> >>> the lights get noticeably brighter when connecting the jumper cables so I
> >>> have to believe that current is reaching the battery. What can possibly be
> >>> the problem?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If the connection weren't good, then the headlights wouldn't get brighter.
> >>> But on the other hand, if the connection were good then the interior light
> >>> wouldn't go out when I try engaging the starter, right?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is kind of a problem as now the dead car is blocking the good car
> >>> from
> >>> getting out of the garage (and therefore going to work tomorrow!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Charles McCall
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