[DeTomaso] A brilliant idea from the National Motorist's Ass'n

[Boyd Casey]

A radar detector is fine but it does nothing to protect one from the
dreaded "red light cameras" which I believe ( although I have no evidence
to support this  belief) are more of a problem as far as automated camera
generated tickets go.
Boyd

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, LS wrote:

> I like this thread and the idea contained.
>
> I'm just wondering though...why not buy a good radar detector? It will
> protect from speed cameras as well as any other type of speed related
> monitoring.
>
> Despite the quote about the Maryland law, the state is quite lenient with
> regards to cars in general but especially vintage cars. Almost like the
> wild west where you can title and register just about anything and the
> police are generally very relaxed with regards to enforcement. It is a good
> state to be a car enthusiast.
>
> LS
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>  *From:* Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> *To:* Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'will.kooiman at gmail.com');>>
> *Cc:* "MikeLDrew at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'MikeLDrew at aol.com');>"
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] A brilliant idea from the National Motorist's
> Ass'n
>
> They question you have to ask yourself is 1. Are you willing to break the
> law to fight something that you think is blatantly unfair ( red light
> tickets ticket the owner who is not neccesarily the driver ) when the car
> he owns triggers a red light camera violation. Ther have been several
> Legislators who have challenged these laws and have provided some proof
> that they are not accurate .
> 2. What is worse ( ie. a more serious violation a.having a cover on your
> license plate or b. getting a red light camera ticket ?) Currently as far
> as I know a red light camera ticket is not a moving violation because they
> can't prove who is driving the car. If a device that makes a license plate
> unreadable is a moving violation or a criminal offence then it may not be
> worth the risk. For those of you who answered ( hopefully to themselves)
> that they are not willing to break the law , remember that next time you
> have the Pantera out and the speedo  needle is nudging past the 75 mph
> mark!
> Another point woth investigating , the author implied that it was neccesary
> to view the license plate from an extreme obtuse angle ( on top of a camera
> pole). So under normal circumstances the obscuring effect should not be
> noticeable at all from the normal position a law officer might be viewing
> ones license plate from.
> From mu expierience and understanding of the law it is illegal to have any
> kind of cover on a license plate. I would be interested in experimenting
> with the glass used in some upscale restaurant's bathroom doors that are
> translucent and with the flip of a switch the glass becomes opaque!That's
> real James Bond stuff!
> Boyd
>
> P.S.
> Will , does that mean it's illegal to put a license plate on your car in
> Missisippi? " If a human can't read it it's illegal" ( Missisippi has one
> of the highest illiteracy rates in the country) LOL
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, Will Kooiman wrote:
>
> > If a human can read it, a camera can too.
> >
> > If a human can't read it, it's illegal.
> >
> > If it is obstructed such that it can only be read from certain angles, it
> > is still obstructed and illegal.
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/20/13 2:04 PM, "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi guys,
> > >
> > >Copied and pasted from the NMA's newsletter....
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >
> > >====
> > >
> > >The Internet is full of websites that sell covers and sprays claiming to
> > >obscure your license plates from those pesky ticket cameras. We¹ve been
> > >reluctant to endorse such products since they reportedly don¹t work very
> > >well, and
> > >they may result in drivers running afoul of the law. (More on that
> below.)
> > >
> > >But, when we got the following letter from a lifetime NMA member in
> South
> > >Carolina (we¹ll call him Al) describing his DIY license plate privacy
> > >filter,
> > >we were impressed with his ingenuity and thought other NMA members would
> > >be
> > >interested. Al¹s solution, described below, relies on readily available
> > >privacy filter material used to obscure computer monitors when viewed
> > >from an
> > >angle:
> > >
> > >Reading about 3M computer privacy filter material, I found a merchant
> > >online offering the size for my iMac desktop. I chose that option
> because
> > >it
> > >could be cut into multiple license plate covers. For reference, I
> ordered
> > >the
> > >21.6 inch width. Click here for more information. It comes in gold or
> > >smoke. I
> > >chose smoke and installed the non-reflective side out.
> > >
> > >Other parts required are a frame and clear, plastic cover available at
> > >Advance Auto. As intended for computer screen privacy, the filter goes
> > >opaque as
> > >the eye is moved side-to-side from center viewing. For license plate
> > >application (and getting maximum coverage from a single sheet of
> > >material), I
> > >marked and cut two plate covers vertically from the sheet. I probably
> had
> > >enough
> > >left over to make another two from this sheet.
> > >
> > >Rotating the screening operation from horizontal to vertical obscures
> the
> > >plate when viewed from above‹perfect for any pole or high-mounted
> camera.
> > >The
> > >material is quite sturdy, so I used my hole-punch set and chose the 1/2"
> > >tool to cut four holes for the Advance cover...perfect fit! Remembering
> > >to
> > >install the matt side out, I was very
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