[DeTomaso] Compression ratio estimate

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Tue Aug 13 22:28:48 EDT 2013


Yep!  He blowed up good.  He blowed up real good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtdXzBSVaU&noredirect=1

--
Will





On 8/13/13 4:31 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>if you want to see something explode come home with a new 4 wheel project
>and then watch your wife ( be sure to stand back!)
>Boyd (divorced , grounds - too many explosions!)
>
>
>On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>
>> No no no....
>> It goes through rapid disassembly due to super accelerated fuel burn and
>> resultant gas expansion.
>>
>> Sometimes I really hate PC.
>> The damn thing BLOWS UP!
>>
>> Asa
>>
>> Sent using Jedi mind tricks.
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>"
>><michaelsavga at gmail.com<javascript:;>
>> >
>> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>, Jack Donahue
>><demongusta at me.com<javascript:;>
>> >
>> Sent: Tue, Aug 13, 2013 18:16:24 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Compression ratio estimate
>>
>> Perhaps
>> ...ever seen a top fuel motor with 1% too much nitro.
>> It freaking explodes.
>>
>> Michael
>> On Aug 13, 2013 2:13 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com
>><javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I know that the powder used in reloading ammo is not classified as an
>> > explosive, and I assume there is some technical definition based on
>>burn
>> > rate.  When selecting a powder you may want a fast powder for a target
>> > load, or a slower powder to maximize energy.  The difference may be in
>> > micro (or nano) seconds, but there is a very real difference in
>> theoutcome.
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
>> >   *From:* Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> > *To:* Melanie Disco <michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>>
>> > *Cc:* Jack Donahue <demongusta at me.com <javascript:;>>; "
>> detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>" <
>> > detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>>
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:40 AM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Compression ratio estimate
>> >
>> > No need to explode about it! LOL
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:40 AM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I don't think that this is worth a semantics discussion Larry, you
>>know
>> > > what I meant.
>> > >
>> > > The official definition ( of 12 offered, this #1) is.
>> > > ex·plode  (k-spld)v. ex·plod·ed, ex·plod·ing, ex·plodesv.intr.
>> > >
>> > > 1. To release mechanical, chemical, or nuclear energy by the sudden
>> > > production of gases in a confined space:
>> > >
>> > > Whether ignited by a spark or by pressure (as in a diesel), the fuel
>> > indeed
>> > > explodes and that explosion is what drives the piston down.
>>IMHO,"burn"
>> > > does not fully convey the mechanical reaction which occurs. Merely
>> > burning
>> > > fuel doesn't have the same word power or descriptive power of the
>> > > intensity, especially when put in the content of a Formula One
>>engine
>> > which
>> > > at 18,000 revolutions per minute caused by 144,000 little
>>explosions.
>> > > Perhaps in an Isetta, but in an 8,000 hp funny car, my Pantera and
>>even
>> > my
>> > > weed wacker, I can hear these very rapid "explosions" which are
>>caused
>> by
>> > > fuel being burned in a sudden manner in a confined space =
>>definition.
>> > >
>> > > Michael
>> > > On Aug 13, 2013 8:21 AM, "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <
>> > larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > <<lower octane fuel will explode more easily.>>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I am not happy with the word Explode. There are no explosions in a
>> > motor.
>> > > > It
>> > > > is a very rapid burn. The same thing is true when you shoot a gun.
>> > There
>> > > is
>> > > > no explosion, but a very rapid burn.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Larry (details) - Cleveland
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
>> On
>> > > > Behalf
>> > > > Of michael at michaelshortt.com
>> > > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:19 PM
>> > > > To: Jack Donahue
>> > > > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Compression ratio estimate
>> > > >
>> > > > The more squishy it gets, the higher the compression.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is the volume is 64 at the bottom and 8 at the top, the comp
>> ratio
>> > > is
>> > > > 8:1
>> > > >
>> > > > But if the bottom volume is 120 and the top volume is 10, the comp
>> > ration
>> > > > is
>> > > > 12:1
>> > > >
>> > > > The reason that higher comp engines need prem fuel is that it is
>>less
>> > > > volatile, meaning that it takes more to set it off, where, lower
>> octane
>> > > > fuel
>> > > > will explode more easily.
>> > > >
>> > > > Dieseling is a byproduct of fuel being set off by pressure rather
>> than
>> > by
>> > > > spark, so you want fuel that reacts more to spark and less to
>> > pressure, a
>> > > > diesel engine doesn't even use a spark, all the fuel is exploded
>>by
>> > > > pressure
>> > > > after the first reaction that is helped alone by the glow plug to
>>get
>> > it
>> > > > started.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Michael
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com
>> > > > <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > It is the difference in volume of the cylinder space at the
>>bottom
>> of
>> > > > > the stroke and between th
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