[DeTomaso] NPC - Ferrari 50th Anniversary

Tom Shinrock tmshinro at aol.com
Sun Aug 4 10:15:37 EDT 2013


 By "classic" I meant 1980 and older.  There were six 246s there and none of them smoked.  Maybe it's a V12 thing?

Tom 
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What do you mean by "classic?"
My 1972 246 does not smoke or burn oil at all.  If you are referring to the 40's 
and 50's or other early competition cars, I think they had minimal or no oil 
control rings on the pistons to decrease friction.  And, yes, they do seem to 
smoke a little.  

But if they were leaving smokescreens then maybe they needed some attention.  
:-)

Jim Oddie



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From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
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Old Ferrari engines don't have valve stem seals I believe. They smoked when new. 

Not so bad when they are warmed up and run hard?

Gray--what say you?

Mike

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 8:14, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:

> Tom
> 
> Thank for taking the time to share your experience and the contrasts.  
> My vote is that engines are to expensive to repair as many parts 
> probably need parts fabricated. Also, a lack of manuals force you toward 
> a Ferrari specialist.  Financially scarey for most of us.
> 
> JT
> On 8/2/2013 4:26 PM, Tom Shinrock wrote:
>> I just got back from attending the 50th anniversary of the Ferrari Club of 
America international meet being held at Road America all weekend.  Thought I'd 
post some of my experiences.
>> 
>> Being from the midwest, you just don't get to see a lot of Ferraris together.  

I counted 111 cars in the concours and guesstimated that there were 3 to 4 times 

that many parked in the paddock area.  Although this kind of gathering is just a 

typical Saturday afternoon at the mall for you west coasters, it's pretty rare 
around here.
>> 
>> The concours was held on the main straight of the race track at the 
start/finish line, which also afforded my the first opportunity to actually walk 

on the track.   There were many, many fine examples of completely restored cars 
ranging from the 1950s to the present.  It was kind of fun following the judges 
around and getting to see the owners having to start the car and demonstrate 
that everything works (lights, turn signals, brake lights, driving lights, 
clock, windows, etc).
>> 
>> I got to watch the owner of a perfect 512bb remove the cover in the front 
trunk so the judge could see his battery, which is very similar to the sunken 
batteries in Pantera only centered.   The lay down front radiator is again 
similar to the Pantera but is HUGE.   It is probably half again as wide as a P 
car and had 3 electric fans all in a row to pull air through it.
>> 
>> Apparently late model Ferraris don't come with spare tires because the owner 
of a car being judged (don't remember the model) said it was an option that he 
paid for.   The spare was one of those skinny donut tires on a very classy alloy 

painted rim.   The spare had printed on it not to exceed 95 mph.  The spare is 
carried in the front trunk and is secured by 3 leather straps (at 2, 6 and 10 
o'clock) and the owner told the judges that he had the fitted luggage but he had 

to leave it at home because it won't fit with the spare tire in the trunk.
>> 
>> At the award ceremony, the presenter was telling why holding concours was 
important because it encourages owners to strive to maintain their cars just as 
they had left the factory.   He said the standard upon which the cars are judged 

is that every part on the car (including the paint) was a factory part.  I kind 
of smiled as I heard that knowing that the Pantera community is, shall we say, a 

little more lax on that philosophy.
>> 
>> Like I said, the cars were stunning....but really surprised me was when the 
cars were driven by the award stand to pick up there plaque almost a third of 
the classic cars (which are the ones I admire the most)  were all oil burners.  
As they revved away from the stand, they left a smoke screen behind them that 
would embarrass me if my car smoked like that.   I don't know if it is because 
the engines are way too expensive to overhaul, or if the preference is to not 
"break the case" and keep them original or if they don't get driven enough.
>> 
>> Spectators had to pay $20 to get in but if you drove a Ferrari you got in for 

free.   Almost everyone asks me if my Pantera is a Ferrari so I wonder if I 
drove my Pantera if they would have mistaken it for a Ferrari (it is red after 
all)  and let me in without having to pay.
>> 
>> All in all it was a once in a lifetime experience for me and was thoroughly 
enjoyable.
>> 
>> Tom
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