[DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

Bill Moore Bill at incendium.com
Sun Apr 21 15:05:08 EDT 2013


I took it out. We get 4 or 5 days of +30C  a year. "The heater works". LOL. 

Cheers,

Bill
Calgary

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mikael" <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:00:33 
To: <Bill at incendium.com>; <detomaso-bounces at poca.com>; 'Charles Engles'<cengles at cox.net>; 'Mike Thomas'<mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'<detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: SV: [DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

" to hell with A/C ". No no! It's spring and I'm testing A/C and filling
R12/134 on all my old cars. Nothing's better than seeing that thermometer in
the air outlet go single digits (Celcius).

Leak status:
Pantera, 1 can/year
Longchamp, no leaks
Beretta, no leaks
My Jeep, 4-5 cans/year
Helen's Jeep 2-3 cans/year

I love A/C!

Mikael

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Fra: Bill Moore [mailto:Bill at incendium.com]
Sendt: 21. april 2013 20:51
Til: Mikael; detomaso-bounces at poca.com; 'Charles Engles'; Mike Thomas;
'DeTomaso Mail List'
Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

World Peace, to hell with A/C.

Cheers,

Bill
Calgary

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mikael" <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
Sender: detomaso-bounces at poca.com
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:42:26
To: 'Charles Engles'<cengles at cox.net>; 'Mike
Thomas'<mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'<detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

Look forward to it too. Bar discussions rarely solve anything, but for once
effort is more important than result...:-)

Mikael

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Fra: Charles Engles [mailto:cengles at cox.net]
Sendt: 21. april 2013 20:04
Til: 'Mikael'; 'Mike Thomas'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
Emne: RE: [DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

Dear Mike,


            I will set the first explosion.

            I have seen them work in either the fore or aft position.  I
understand about the practical thermodynamics of the condenser placement and
its effect on engine coolant temps.   Real world experience of the group
seems to show that there is enough reserve in *most* coolant systems to
tolerate this.

            I look forward to discussing this with you in the bar at the
resort in Chandler.

                        Vroom, vroom,   Chuck Engles

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Mikael
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:41 PM
To: 'Mike Thomas'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

Mike, I know I'm stepping into a known minefield, but " all advice is
welcome "...

Unless you need the rear cavity for 180 headers, keep the condenser at the
rear. For two reasons:
1. It works, nice 5-7 degrees Celcius air even in hotter-than-normal France
at LMC 2. Moving it to the front means that it'll share airstream with the
radiator, making both condenser and radiator hotter, your engine will hate
you for it...

I'll be in Phoenix, those that want to discuss this, just start a line...
:-)

Mikael

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Mike Thomas [mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net]
Sendt: 20. april 2013 04:09
Til: 'DeTomaso Mail List'
Emne: [DeTomaso] Front mounted AC

OK, so, I've decided to take the plunge to redo the interior, and one thing
my car has never had is AC.  I know I what to do a front mounted condenser.
Who has converted to front mount that can be called on when I get to that
point.

I know Bobby Byars has a rad/front condenser setup that he sells, and my
current rad is from Bobby, so I'll also be giving him a call to see about
picking up the rest of the hardware to plumb and hang the unit out front.

I want to do this right, and  will likely not have the car on the road again
until it's time to drive to next years' Fun Rally, so any and all advice is
welcome.

Thanks in advance
Mike Thomas
Yellow '74 L #6328



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