[DeTomaso] Resurrection

michael@michaelshortt.com michaelsavga at gmail.com
Sun Apr 14 10:40:56 EDT 2013


The actual wiring swap would take me 30 seconds, Unbolting the rubber
insolator mounted steel mounting plate and R&R the actual MSD box would
take the other 4:30.
I had never seen anybody use the connectors in the way that I have, it came
to me after playing with my nitro RC cars, all of the electronics are
swappable with quick connects and I thought why not?

Michael Shortt
On Apr 14, 2013 10:31 AM, "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chuck
>
>
>                How old is your MSD 6AL?   My box was twelve or thirteen
> years old.  It quit last fall.
> ***My MSD is, oh, twelve or thirteen years old :-(
>
>  I sent it to MSD for repair and I was
> surprised by their report of three different things wrong with it.  The
> repair bill was modest.  In retrospect, I wonder if the darn thing had been
> failing slowly and inexorably *before* it finally died.
> ****Do they do that, or do they just quit one day?
>
> PS: It might indeed be the carb and I think you have a Chuck Nuytten carb.
> If ALL else fails, then send the carb off whilst the MSD is out and let
> Chuck give it an overhaul......
> ****Yes, I have a Chuck Nuytten carb. I wrote to him last year to see about
> rebuilding it. I probably should have done it over the winter but I had a
> mechanic with experience in Holleys give it a thorough cleaning last year
> hoping it would solve the issue. I'll probably start swapping out the MSD
> box since I can do that easily since I have a spare. The spare is 12-13
> years old as well though!! Although never been used...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Charles McCall
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:53 AM
> To: 'Jerry Knotts'; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Resurrection
>
> Thanks Jerry. I have a battery tender, so I think  my battery is in good
> condition...
>
> Charles McCall
> Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Jerry Knotts
> Sent: domingo, 14 de abril de 2013 15:28
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Resurrection
>
> Charles,
>
> I have found MSD boxes to be very voltage dependent.  Anything less than
> battery voltage gives unpredictable results.
>
> jerry knotts
>
>
> On 4/14/2013 8:16 AM, Charles McCall wrote:
> > 1) ..and on the third day, they pushed the rock aside (opened the
> > garage
> > door) and found the cave empty with the exception of a loincloth
> (California
> > Car Cover). The Pantera has come back to life again, for the first
> > time of the year!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Resurrection of a subject kicked around last year but without
> > coming to conclusions.. My engine for the past couple of years has had
> > an
> intermittent
> > problem where it feels like a couple of cylinders cut out. I'd like to
> > resurrect the subject to see if we can come up with some new ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> > At first I suspected it was a fuel issue, and disassembled the carb. I
> > did find a lot of very fine powder in the float bowls, which I cleaned
> > out,
> and
> > installed a fuel filter.
> >
> >
> >
> > I changed the spark plugs to rule out a fouling or failing plug. I
> > haven't changed the wires.
> >
> >
> >
> > Symptoms - car can run fine for hours or days or months. Then it feels
> like
> > a switch has been thrown and one or perhaps two cylinders stop firing.
> > I have to put my foot into it to keep the engine running. Black smoke
> > comes out the exhaust, and it I let the revs drop below 2000, the
> > engine will
> die.
> > This may last for as little as 5 minutes, or as long as 20, although
> > the rough running tends to be interrupted by arriving at my
> > destination. But
> as
> > quickly as the problem arrives, it suddenly heals itself, the engine
> > goes back to firing on all cylinders, idles happily at 1000rpm, and
> > all is
> well.
> > Perhaps for a day, perhaps for a month, or perhaps for an hour.
> >
> >
> >
> > My engine - 351C, Compcamps 282S cam, Aussie 2v closed chamber heads,
> Weiand
> > Excelerator intake, Holley 700DP, MSD 6AL, MSD coil. Motorcraft AF42
> plugs.
> > MSD plug wires.
> >
> >
> >
> > We had just started talking about whether MSD boxes could act like
> > this
> when
> > the thread dropped off last year. If this isn't fuel related and is
> > spark related, what can I check?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Charles McCall
> > Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
> >   <http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323>
> > http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
> >
> >
> >
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