[DeTomaso] Clutch master swap out

Charles McCall charlesmccall at gmail.com
Fri Apr 12 02:27:54 EDT 2013


1) I replaced my stock slave with a long throw last year and was unable to
tell the difference. If there was a difference, then it was not enough to
be a nuicance or change the nature of the action.
2) I went with a long throw to give myself more margin for error or wear. I
don't think I would have thrown away a perfectly good slave to replace it
with a long throw, but since my slave failed and I had to buy a new one, I
felt it was better to buy a long throw than a stock. I felt more
comfortable having a little more clearance.
3) Clutch effort is more influenced by clutch type (Diaphragm, 3-finger,
etc) or effort reduction kit than by long throw/stock slave cylinder. In
the same car, I have experienced significantly different pedal effort based
on clutch type. Night and Day different. Again, I can't honestly say that I
noticed ANY difference in effort with the long throw slave. But I do spend
a lot of time in the gym ;-)


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM, <JDeRyke at aol.com> wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/11/13 12:25:07 PM, mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk writes:
>
>
> > IMHO a long throw is not necessary if everything works as designed. That
> > said, I've never driven a Pantera with a long throw slave, are they
> > noticeably harder to push down? Is it a real nuisance or does one get
> used
> > to it quickly?
> >
> Your first sentance is key, my friend! 40+ years on from brand new, things
> are NOT the same as designed, particularly the linkage which is all
> metal-to-metal, has no provision for lube and so wears, reducing travel at
> the
> clutch. Simple check: if one can slide an 0.040" thick flat feeler gauge
> in thru
> the bellhousing access hole, between the flywheel & clutch plate with a
> helper pushing the clutch pedal to the floor, you have approximately stock
> clearance in your clutch system. Whether this is actually enough clearance
> is
> another debate.
> Most cannot get 0.040" clearance, and worse, most do NOT push the pedal
> clear to the floor when shifting. So the synchros get overworked matching
> gear
> speeds. Yes, usually one can tell if there's a long-throw slave inside.
> IMHO, you quickly get used to the 5% or so extra effort. FWIW- J Deryke
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