[DeTomaso] ilver State

gow2 at rc-tech.net gow2 at rc-tech.net
Wed Sep 12 10:09:58 EDT 2012 

The engine is a GMC 702cu V12. My brother builds them for hot rodders:

http://www.thunderv12.com/

I picked up the Nascar at the Auborn Auction a few years back. I really
didn't mean to but it was so cheap. It was a Jack Ingrams car that was at
the Natmas museum in Auborn. It was in their basement when they had some
flooding. The water came up to the floor boards. he engine that came with
it has a hole you can put your fist through. I suspect that is why the car
is still in one piece.

I really don't know the history on it. Instead of a 9" rear it has a rear
end with changeable gears. Which makes me think some one was playing with
the car after Jack had it. It also has a filler on the right side. Never
had one on the left which means it would have been one of the road race
cars for places like Watkens Glen; which is good because it was not just
set up to go left.

It was cheap enough I think I am going to make it a rolling dyno so to
speak. I want to build an engine for the Trans Am and I figure I can run
it in this car first; have some fun. We have a drag strip a couple miles
from the house. It would be an easy chassis to clean up and get going
again; unlike a production car with windows, mirrors, wipers,
environmental's, interior, etc.

I think the plan would be to strip it down, cut the body off and just get
it sand blasted and painted. I have less money in this then I do the
shocks I put on the Pantera so it would be easy to get it going and drive
it without worry of what it is.

G



> What kind of engine is that on the trailer with the #11 NASCAR type
> Lumina?
>  Whats the story with that car?
> Boyd
>
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, wrote:
>
>> Friend of the family. Not a story for here if you know what I mean.
>>
>> > I the Pantera a barn find? --- just had to ask.
>> >
>> > Bud #3400
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 9/11/12, gow2 at rc-tech.net <javascript:;>
>> <gow2 at rc-tech.net<javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: gow2 at rc-tech.net <javascript:;> <gow2 at rc-tech.net
>> <javascript:;>>
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Silver Stateithumina
>> > To: "michael frazier" <red3644 at hotmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> > Cc: "pantera list" <detomaso at realbig.com <javascript:;>>
>> > Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 2:58 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > This is what I am thinking about. I need to cut the body off, blast
>> the
>> > frame and clean it up:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/NC/lumina.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/NC/lum2.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/NC/lumina3.jpg
>> >
>> >>
>> >>  Much the same rules for the Big Bend ORR except you can run in the
>> GT
>> >> class with a 125mpg average and 140mph max.  You do have
>> >> to complete a rookie orientation and qualifying session on Wed, or
>> Thur.
>> >> before the Sat. race.  I've been an instructor for the last few
>> >> years.  That's a morning in the classroom and an afternoon out on a
>> >> section of closed highway.  A Snell approved helmet, some gloves
>> >> and an extinguisher in a metal mount will get you in the show.  BBORR
>> is
>> >> coming up at the end of April 2013!
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> From: bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
>> >>> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:27:28 -0700
>> >>> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net <javascript:;>
>> >>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com <javascript:;>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Silver State
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary,
>> >>> 110 mph max speed class.
>> >>> 125 max tech speed.
>> >>> In May this year there was a NASCAR type car and Jim Peruto set a
>> world
>> >>> record, close to 218 mph average.
>> >>> And 252 mph across the finish line...
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have not prepared yet it might be a little late but sure, if
>> you
>> >>> already have the gear, a fire extinguisher and a Snell approved
>> helmet
>> >>> you can still enter.
>> >>> They accept entries until Saturday.
>> >>>
>> >>> And you will need to take the Andretti racing school in Vegas this
>> >>> Thursday morning at 6am.
>> >>>
>> >>> We are on our way from SFO to Vegas now.
>> >>> See you there then?
>> >>> Cheers Bjoern
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Den 11. sep. 2012 kl. 08:06 skrev gow2 at rc-tech.net <javascript:;>:
>> >>>
>> >>> > At Silver state what is the max speed for a first timer? Were
>> there
>> >>> any ex
>> >>> > Nascars there?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What are some basic things which need be done to get one prepared?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Well gang I wish more of you could have made the silver state.
>> >>> >> I have the Pizza Car full of racing fuel, loaded on the trailer
>> and
>> >>> ready
>> >>> >> to roll.
>> >>> >> I have made at least a dozen improvements to the car since it was
>> at
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> fun rally.
>> >>> >> I will drive 550 miles to Ely on Friday and will run an average
>> 140
>> >>> mph on
>> >>> >> Sunday.
>> >>> >> It should be an easy run for Pizza. The only section that I have
>> to
>> >>> >> watch out for is the narrows in the canyon.
>> >>> >> I had the back end sliding around in 2002 with the white car.
>> >>> >> Hard to slow down to 100 going through the narrows.
>> >>> >> At least I won’t have that McClaren in front of me like at the
>> fun
>> >>> rally
>> >>> >> egging me on to go faster.
>> >>> >> With the overdrive fifth gear in the car I expect the engine
>> turns
>> >>> about
>> >>> >> 4500 rpms at 145mph.
>> >>> >> On the track I will run it at 7500 rpms so 4500 is a cruise.
>> >>> >> In fourth at 7500 rpms I am going about 155mph so to drive 145
>> mph I
>> >>> will
>> >>> >> have to short shift 4th and 5th.
>> >>> >> More like a country driving cruise, just focus for about 35
>> minutes
>> >>> going
>> >>> >> back and forth over the two lane crown in the road at 140 mph
>> taking
>> >>> >> turns.
>> >>> >> You do pucker once in a while. I don’t have the turns memorized.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Rich
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
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