[DeTomaso] Relays, Fans, Ammeter, second thoughts and project expansion

[thomas]

It is still wrong.

No consumer other than the starter should be connected to the battery.

The fan acting as a generator has way better solutions.

Thomas

16 okt 2012 kl. 22:26 skrev "Mikael" <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>:

> I guess it does, after looking at the wiring diagramme. But with a shunted
> amp gauge, no big problem. Not as big as an engine that won't stop. 
> 
> Mikael
> 
> 
> 
> Fra: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se] 
> Sendt: 16. oktober 2012 21:29
> Til: mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
> Cc: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Relays, Fans, Ammeter,second thoughts and project
> expansion
> 
> 
> 
> Actually, connecting it that way ensures that all the energy consumed by the
> fans has to pass the ammeter.
> 
> 
> 
> Tomas
> 
> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
> From: Mikael [mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk]
> 
> Sent: 16/10/2012 7:16:41 PM
> 
> To: 'Dave'; MikeLDrew at aol.com; guido_detomaso at prodigy.net;
> DeTomaso at realbig.com
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Relays, Fans, Ammeter,second thoughts and project
> expansion
> 
> 
> Pantera Electronics make great things, I have their white and yellow in one
> parking/signal lamp. But there is another way to get the fans away from the
> fuse block. I've taken power straight from the battery to the relay. That
> has four advantages, one disadvantage:
> Advantages:
> -Simple, as in you won't get stranded anywhere because of this
> -Cheap, no purchase necessary
> -Stopped my car from running on when key is turned off. I'm not educated
> enough to fully understand why, but I was told so, and it works
> -No extra juice/heat past the amp gauge
> Disadvantage:
> When the fans turn on, your amp gauge goes to the right instead of the left
> (This can be an advantage also, because it's a sure way to see when the
> thermostat turns on a fan, I discovered it is turned on way too often on my
> car, will get a hotter thermostat for the fan)
> 
> Mikael
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Dave [mailto:dave at damardirect.com] 
> Sendt: 15. oktober 2012 19:38
> Til: MikeLDrew at aol.com; guido_detomaso at prodigy.net; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Relays, Fans, Ammeter, second thoughts and project
> expansion
> 
> Pantera Electronics has an amazing fan controller, power is removed from the
> fuse block.
> Also, look at the replacement (plug n play) fuse block. 
> http://www.pantera-electronics.com/
> 
> IndyDave
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:59 PM
> To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Relays, Fans, Ammeter, second thoughts and project
> expansion
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/14/12 15 08 25, guido_detomaso at prodigy.net writes:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Starting to question the wisdom of adding another wire to the ammeter 
>> to feed the fans, now that it's installed of course.  Why not tap off 
>> the pink wires at the fuse box, which are on the same circuit and 
>> likely a shorter path to the alternator?  I think that was the 
>> approach in "Volts of Confidence" too.
>> 
> 
>>>> The VofC mod involves adding a second fusebox to drastically shorten 
>>>> and
> improve the current path for the fans. The aux fuseblock is powered by a 
> large-gauge wire hooked to the back of the ammeter; power wires then go from
> that fusebox directly to the fan relays, which are still switched normally. 
> (The fans are grounded locally with diodes as well). The problem with 
> that scheme is that the fans are powered all the time, and will run on after
> 
> the ignition is switched off. Rick Moseley deals with that by adding more 
> relays, so the power from the aux fusebox to the fan relays passes through
> ignition-switched relays.
> 
> Mike
> 
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