[DeTomaso] Weber IDA48 or injection?

Bill Lewis lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Sat Nov 24 19:42:13 EST 2012


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> From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:36:23 -0600
> To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> CC: michael at michaelshortt.com; detomaso at realbig.com; edducati at mac.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber IDA48 or injection?
> 
> Woohoo!!! I just have to respond to this one, Will.
> 
> :-)
> 
> One caveat…. I run EFI… not Webers, but my responses should be relevant.
> 
> On Nov 24, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > The linkage is a pain in the butt.  It works the best to pull from the
> > side rather than using the bell crank in the valley.  But the bell crank
> > in the valley looks better.
> 
> Both my cars are bell cranks in the valley. Mucho better than pulling from the side.
> I ran a side pull for years and it was very sensitive at low end. The bell crank is much more progressive.
> 
> > You lose the lumpy exhaust with Webers.  The idle is very smooth.  It
> > tames the car quite a bit.
> Same with IR EFI.
> 
> > You have to cut the deck lid.  You can cut straight across and it looks
> > factory.  If you cut two half circles, you can tell the factory didn't do
> > it.
> > 
> The factory didn't do it…. Oh, well….
> 
> > You lose your vacuum port, so you need to do something with your vacuum
> > assisted brakes and your PCV.  Without a PCV, you mist oil all over the
> > place.
> 
> I put mine in cylinder #2. Never had a problem. 
> 
> > Lots of people run Weber intakes with fuel injection.  It seems to work
> > pretty well once you get the EFI adjusted.
> 
> Yes, but it does take awhile when you have 'issues'.
> 
> > I prefer Webers, though.  If I weren't running Webers, I'd try a tunnel
> > ram with 2 Holleys.
> 
> Two 4 bbls would be cool.
> 
> FWIW,
> Kirby
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/23/12 3:14 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> What's your goal, use for the car?
> >> 
> >> Webers look cool, hard to keep adjusted, either know how or have a
> >> rotating
> >> account with the shop that does. IMHO, the coolest, must cut the decklid
> >> to
> >> make them fit.
> >> 
> >> EFI Predictable, less lag, fewr problems once it is set up. More dollars
> >> to
> >> do it well.  Boring and you lose the lumpty lumpty sound at idle from an
> >> aggresive cam. Adjustable with a laptop, doesn't get much easier.
> >> 
> >> Carb. Depends on the model, moderate effort to adjust with jets, etc., but
> >> I love the rumble and the lumpty lump sound at stoplights.
> >> 
> >> Michael Shoftt
> >> On Nov 23, 2012 4:04 PM, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Weber carbs with Hall Pantera manifold or efi unit? If so which efi
> >>> unit?
> >>> 
> >>> Currently have a Torker II manifold an Holley 750dp.
> >>> 
> >>> I was looking at this:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/160897695359?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p39
> >>> 84.m1423.l2649
> >>> 
> >>> or this, and placing it on a Hall Weber manifold:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/170762099537?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p39
> >>> 84.m1423.l2649
> >>> 
> >>> The second link looks like you can take the injection off and put it
> >>> straight onto a Hall Weber Manifold.
> >>> 
> >>> Here is a link to my car pictures:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.icloud.com/journal/#4;CAEQARoQKFFSOKSPhr85aiwbFkUTmQ;F101C728
> >>> -4DFA-4AC7-8E3D-F37D7621CD11
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