[DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.

Tue May 29 19:15:56 EDT 2012

I run glass matt batteries in any car I don't want battery acid corosion
issues. I have been very satisfied with them.

In the MGB I run 2 Odyssey motorcycle AGM batteries.

If you get a battery tender make darn sure it is for that type of battery.
I don't use them; instead I use a battery cut off. In doing so the
batteries are going strong well after 5 years.

Gary

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> I'm not sure I see any difference in the optiosn you quoted? The Optima is
> an AGM and like the Odyssey or DynaBatt has a significantly reduced life
> if you let it fully discharge. The trick is not to let any of them fully
> discharge, even a 50% discharge is damaging to overall life, something
> like 300 cycles at that point.
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> The Odyssey and DynaBatt (extremely so) are more compact than the Optima
> and offer greater options for creative mounting. FWIW the DynaBatt is a
> rebranded (and hyper cost) Genesis, both Genesis and Odyssey (Hawker)
> brands are all part of the Enersys Group.
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> Julian
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> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:27:39 -0700
> From: lashdeep at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.
> To: red3644 at hotmail.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; julian_kift at hotmail.com;
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> CC: asajay at asajay.com; detomaso at realbig.com; parapantera at aol.com
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> So, we know that the Optima is (or was) a good battery and its
> non-spillable feature allowed for more mounting options.
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> The Odyssey and DynaBatt models are smaller and lighter but maybe not
> great for periods of storage.
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> Is there a lightweight and durable battery that has the best of both
> worlds?
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> From: michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>
> To: lashdeep at yahoo.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; julian_kift at hotmail.com;
> michael at michaelshortt.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.
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> Very common discussion on the Corvette Forums.  It seems that the new
> Optimas are indeed lower quality than
> the old ones.  I use the NAPA glass mat batteries.  A few more cranking
> amps for a few less $$$ than an Optima, and more readily available...FWIW.
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> Michael Frazier
> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
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>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:08 -0700
>> From: lashdeep at yahoo.com
>> To: sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; julian_kift at hotmail.com;
>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>> CC: asajay at asajay.com; detomaso at realbig.com; parapantera at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.
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>> I have an Optima Red Top that I bought in 2001 used in various
>> recreational cars. Sometimes these cars have sat for six months at a
>> time but this battery always performed well without any charging or
>> maintenance.
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>> I've heard that the new Optimas aren't made as well as the older ones.
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>> Any data out there to support that rumor?
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>> LS
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>> From: SG <sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; michael at michaelshortt.com
>> Cc: asajay at asajay.com; De Tomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>;
>> parapantera at aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.
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>> I have a redtop optima in the Pantera that is at least eight yrs old and
>> going strong.  It also sat about 9 months once without being used or
>> charged.  when I checked it it was still at 12.5v and ready to use.  I
>> think that in one form or another the dry cell is the way to go.
>>
>> Shaun Gibson
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>> --- On Sun, 5/27/12, michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.
>> To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: asajay at asajay.com, "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>,
>> parapantera at aol.com
>> Date: Sunday, May 27, 2012, 11:49 AM
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>> Great point Julian, I'm on my 3rd Optima ( one was in the car when I got
>> it, approx 4 years old, it lasted another year with me, then my first
>> replacement Optima that lasted 4 years which also died if not driven
>> every
>> few weeks (drain somewhere) and the current one which is in year 2.5)
>> The
>> last one has constantly been hooked up to a Battery Tender Jr. ($59.95)
>> and
>> shows no signs of weakness thus far.
>> I have now put one on both M/C and the 450SL as well.
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>> I recommend them highly for anything that isn't driven on a regular
>> basis.
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>> Michael
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>> BTW, is. Battery Tender dies, they'll rebuilt for $17.95.
>> On May 27, 2012 11:55 AM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >
>> > I needed a new battery for the Ultima and the replacement factory
>> > recommended Varley Red Top was $430, so I switched to the equivalent
>> > Odyssey ER40 (Extreme Racing), which was $130 less. It's a tiny little
>> > thing, but kicks the Chebbie over every time with no issues and cold
>> > cranking is usually a longer demand for me as I don't have a cold
>> start
>> > circuit.
>> >
>> > The Varley was a great battery too and lasted 8 years and probably
>> would
>> > have gone longer had I known you cannot high boost start/charge the
>> Dry
>> > Cells, so a lesson  One other advantage of the Dry cells is you can
>> get
>> > creative with mounting as they don't need to be upright. I once saw a
>> > picture of one mounted under the front trunk upside down in a Pantera,
>> the
>> > equivalent of the drop battery box, without the cutting and welding.
>> >
>> > On the other hand I have been going through Optima batteries in 6 - 24
>> > months in the Pantera (I did have a parasitic drain sometimes, which I
>> > think I have cured with a new hazard switch), so the next battery I
>> buy for
>> > the Pantera will be an Odyssey. For each car/battery I now have a CTEK
>> > intelligent trickle charger too. The gell cell or AGM batteries just
>> don't
>> > recover well from full discharge.
>> >
>> > Julian
>> >
>> > > From: ParaPantera at aol.com
>> > > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:57:04 -0400
>> > > To: asajay at asajay.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery questions, again.
>> > >
>> > > In 2003 I purchased a "little" Odyssey PC925 since I had mounted
>> the
>> > > clutch master vacuum pump on the passenger side of the pedal house,
>> size
>> > was  an
>> > > issue.  In 2006 I changed vacuum pump locations, and the battery in
>> my
>> > > Acura I bought new in July 2001 was at the end of it's five year
>> life
>> >  span.  I
>> > > put the PC925 in the Acura and bought a PC1200 for the  Pantera.
>> The
>> > PC925
>> > > is still performs flawlessley after nine  years.  As for the PC1200
>> it
>> > has
>> > > endured six years of Lucas electrical  abuse including maybe three
>> times
>> > a
>> > > year when a dome light anomaly drains it  completely.
>> > >
>> > >  I cannot speak for Odyssey's built today, but the two I have
>> purchased
>> > > have been cost effective from a durability and life span point of
>> view.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > In a message dated 5/26/2012 3:22:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> > > asajay at asajay.com writes:
>> > >
>> > > Best  battery to buy for a Pantera today?
>> > > Wet cell tech versus Dry cell  tech?
>> > >
>> > > Is the Odyssey any good anymore?
>> > > How about the Orbital?
>> > > Has  anyone tried the Dyna-Batt?
>> > >
>> > > I am battery poor at the moment.  I  have two rigs with old worn out
>> and
>> > > absolutely -dead- batteries and they  can't be driven a such.  I
>> also
>> > > have one currently going out, so I  need to think new batteries
>> soon.
>> > >
>> > > I'm less a fan of wet cell these days  if I can get something
>> better.
>> > >
>> > > Asa Jay
>> > >
>> > > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt,  USAFR, Retired
>> > > &  Shelley Marie
>> > > Spokane,  WA
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