[DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil

Thu May 3 19:29:31 EDT 2012

You should be able to find Delo at any auto parts store or even Wal-Mart. Chevron's Delo and Shell's Rotella are two of the most popular diesel engine oils out there.

Gray

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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of LEVITT1946 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:05 PM
To: pantdino at aol.com; charlesmccall at gmail.com; davel at emspace.com
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil

Yes I am talking about my pantera . I can purchase the delo product  from one company here on the east coast .

      PRIME LUBE, INC.   800 Roosevelt Avenue
Carteret, NJ
Phone:  (732)969-9200  

____________________________________

Can you tell me what I should be asking for ? 

I took this list from an article back in may of 2011

Valvoline VR1 Racing _Oil_
(http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/default.aspx?zo=5025806)  , 20W-50 because its easy to  find, cheap and has the 1200-1300 ish ppm 

Mobil 1 product 0W-50 Racing Oil "formulated for NASCAR Cup engines" with big time 1850ppm for ZDDP

Mobil 1 15W-50 is "back by demand" according to the web site and has ZDDP loadings in the 1200-1300 'ish ppm range

In a message dated 5/3/2012 4:25:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pantdino at aol.com writes:

Assuming you're talking about  your Pantera--
Pennzoil 10W-40 will have about  800 ppm of ZDDP-- probably not enough if 
you still have non-roller cam  followers
You're better off with Delo or one of the other Heavy Duty  15W-40 
gas-diesel oils, which have about 1100 PPM.

Jim 

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From: LEVITT1946 <LEVITT1946 at aol.com>
To:  charlesmccall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; davel  <davel at emspace.com>
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Subject: Re:  [DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil

I use pennzoil 10w40 and my engine seems to run great . PI Motorsports   
recommended I switch from mobil 1 to pennzoil. 

 bob 

 In a message dated 4/24/2012 3:48:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 _charlesmccall at gmail.com_ (mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com)  writes:

 Thanks  Dave!

 By 2004 there were catalytic converters so I'd assume  that oil for 2004 
had
 lower levels of zddp. 

 Of course you  know what they say about  assumptions...

 Thanks!

 Charles McCall
 Raising  Pantera Awareness Across Europe
 1985 DeTomaso Pantera  #9375
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 From:  Dave Londry [_mailto:davel at emspace.com_ (mailto:davel at emspace.com?) 
] 
 Sent: martes, 24 de abril de 2012  21:28
 To: CharlesMcCall
 Cc: _detomaso at realbig.com_ (mailto:detomaso at realbig.com) 
 Subject: Re:  [DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil

 I don't see anyone speaking  up Charles. (no wonder, it's pretty well
 impossible to answer now)
 For a  non-roller cam
 ..You want >9ppm
 ..Optimum is about 12 ppm which gives  you some room for depletion 
 (which happens during normal  running)
 ..Folklore says >18ppm gets you into some embrittlement  issues.
 (I choose to trust this one, no particular reason though)

 As  to what your 10W40 has in it??
 2 years ago it would have had 1200 ppm. Now  ?

 As far as reading the designation - wtf knows what this means and  this is
 the API, who make up them  up.
 _http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/API.html_ 
(http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/API.html) 

 SL 

 Current  

 For 2004 and older automotive engines. 

 SJ 

 Current  

 For 2001 and older automotive engines.

 CF  

 Current 

 Introduced in 1994. For off-road, indirect injected  and other diesel 
 engines
 including those using fuel with over 0.5% weight  sulfur. Can be used in
 place of CD oils. 

 Here's a blurb from  Mobil pitching 0W40 and 10W40  Hi-Mileage

_http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/ZDDP_Levels_C_ 
(http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/ZDDP_Levels_C) 
 lassic_Cars.aspx

 What  would I do?
 Add 600 ppm and pray a  bunch.
 dave

 On 24/04/2012 11:41 AM,  CharlesMcCall wrote: 

 Hi

 Can someone who knows oil or  where to look confirm that API SL/SJ/CF oil
 needs zddp additive?  

 I have additive and just bought some Mobil 10W40. (What  happens if you add
 too much zddp anyway? Is that a bad  thing?)

 Charles McCall
 Raising Pantera  Awareness Across Europe
 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
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