[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 94, Issue 3
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> 1. Re: Part # needed (Mike Thomas)
> 2. Re: Part # needed (Tomas Gunnarsson)
> 3. SORC (David in Durango)
> 4. Engines (gow2 at rc-tech.net)
> 5. Re: SORC (Jim Wallace)
> 6. Re: So-Cal "Save the date" (James coyne)
> 7. Re: MAP Squadron De-briefing (Tom Shinrock)
> 8. Re: So-Cal "Save the date" (Bill Lewis)
> 9. Re: MAP Squadron De-briefing (Jim Gray)
> 10. Expensive tickets . . . (David in Durango)
> 11. Re: MORE dipstick confusion??? (B Hower)
> 12. Re: MORE dipstick confusion??? (B Hower)
> 13. Re: MORE dipstick confusion??? (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
> 14. Re: So-Cal "Save the date" (jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com)
> 15. Re: Expensive tickets . . . (Christopher Kimball)
> 16. Save a few $s on Delo 400 15-40 (Ken Green)
> 17. Re: MORE dipstick confusion??? (thomas)
> 18. attorney in Nevada...? (Christopher Kimball)
> 19. Re: calling Larry Finch, Bob Benson and/or Gary Kono
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 05:43:44 -0700
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Part # needed
> To: <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "'DeTomaso Forum'"
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> Should probably think about swapping out the pilot bushing if you haven't
> already, since you're in there.
> Mike Thomas
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:38 PM
> To: DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Part # needed
>
> My mechanic called today, and the steel flywheel surface area is warped on
> the existing centerforce aluminum unit. A new one is over $600, but they
> can put a new steel section in for only $85. - what a deal. Sent it off this
> pm. Ordering new ARP bolts as well ($7) and I also need a throwout bearing.
>
> Now the question, is there a specific unit for my Centerforce setup or can I
> use a stock unit? No visible marks on the old unit. If so, any
> recommendations or part numbers?
>
> THANKS,
>
> Michael Shortt
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 05:47:34 -0700
> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Part # needed
> To: <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: michael at michaelshortt.com, detomaso at realbig.com
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> The flywheel always turns with crank rpm, only the clutch plate turns
> with input shaft rpm when you shift.
>
> Tomas
>
> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
> From: Ken Green [kenn_green at yahoo.com]
> Sent: 2/5/2012 5:58:10 AM
> To: Dave Londry; michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Part # needed
>
> The reduced angular momentum of an aluminum flywheel may be is easier on
> the expensive synchros? I guess that assumes you drive the same way
> with the lighter flywheel.
>
> Ken
>
> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Part # needed
>
> Mine's stock.
> Doesn't mean it's right, but it works fine.
> dave
>
>
> On 01/05/2012 7:37 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
>> My mechanic called today, and the steel flywheel surface area is
> warped on
>> the existing centerforce aluminum unit. A new one is over $600, but
> they
>> can put a new steel section in for only $85. - what a deal. Sent it
> off
>> this pm. Ordering new ARP bolts as well ($7) and I also need a
> throwout
>> bearing.
>>
>> Now the question, is there a specific unit for my Centerforce setup or
> can
>> I use a stock unit? No visible marks on the old unit. If so, any
>> recommendations or part numbers?
>>
>> THANKS,
>>
>> Michael Shortt
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:45:10 -0600
> From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] SORC
> To: "panteras" <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Re: Nebraska Open Road Event
>
> NO motel/hotel in town. Organizers will help match you with a local family.
>
> Tom D'Iiulio was the first Pantera to run the event. Mad Dawg and I joined him in 2007.
> http://images28.fotki.com/v1001/photos/4/43175/5282816/image001-vi.jpg
>
> There is NO shoulder, if you drop a wheel at speed . . . it will result in a fancy dismount. KEEP IT ON THE PAVEMENT!
>
> Mile is advertised as the straightest, smoothest piece of road in the county. Bring large attachements.
>
> Great folks, lots of bugs, humid, and a very welcoming community (The open road event is the highlight of the year for these folks. It has paid for the community center!)
>
>
> Being congratulated after my mile run . . .
> http://images27.fotki.com/v981/photos/4/43175/5282816/neb074444-vi.jpg
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>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:55:22 -0500
> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Engines
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
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> Auction in Northridge Ca tomorrow. 9 RoushYates Nascar engines and tootling:
>
> http://www.aagauction.com/pdfs/2012-05-03.pdf?utm_source=BidSpotter+Main+List&utm_campaign=16575c176f-American_Auctioneers_Group_176275_2_2012&utm_medium=email
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> G
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:54:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] SORC
> To: David in Durango <adin at frontier.net>, panteras
> <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Dave,
> ?
> The first picture.....I've also stayed in that trailor!? Small world.
> ?
> Jim
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David in Durango <adin at frontier.net>
> To: panteras <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:45 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] SORC
>
> ? ? Re: Nebraska Open Road Event
>
> NO motel/hotel in town.? Organizers will help match you with a local family.
>
> Tom D'Iiulio was the first Pantera to run the event.? Mad Dawg and I joined him in 2007.
> http://images28.fotki.com/v1001/photos/4/43175/5282816/image001-vi.jpg
>
> There is NO shoulder, if you drop a wheel at speed . . . it will result in a fancy dismount.? KEEP IT ON THE PAVEMENT!
>
> Mile is advertised as the straightest, smoothest piece of road in the county.? Bring large attachements.
>
> Great folks, lots of bugs, humid, and a very welcoming community (The open road event is the highlight of the year for these folks.? It has paid for the community center!)?
>
>
> Being congratulated after my mile run . . .
> http://images27.fotki.com/v981/photos/4/43175/5282816/neb074444-vi.jpg
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:00:53 -0700
> From: James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] So-Cal "Save the date"
> To: Rob d'Orazio <robpantera at sbcglobal.net>, <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Also Saturday May 19th, "Worlds largest Pantera Swap Meet" will be held at DRB Proformance in Lake Elsinore, CA.
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:24:20 -0700
>> From: robpantera at sbcglobal.net
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] So-Cal "Save the date"
>>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> It's official! Foothill Panteras world famous "Panteras in the Park" picnic is scheduled for Saturday, June 23rd in Sierra Madre, California. Open to all members of the DeTomaso community, it's a friendly casual gathering where all you have to do is bring your Pantera and we provide the rest. This event usually brings out 20-30 Panteras, so come on out and hang with the crowd. Stay tuned for more details.
>>
>> For more info, contact Rob D'Orazio at robpantera at sbcglobal.net or by phone at (626)795-0915.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:07:22 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MAP Squadron De-briefing
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
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> Chuck,
> Great write up. Got home without any problems other than severe lack of sleep. Doing the trip out in 3 ten hour days was surprisingly fun. Doing the trip back in a 20 hour day and a 12 hour day on just 8 hours of sleep between both days was torture. Due to forecasted storms for the next week the next day was the best opportunity to avoid rain so I got up the next morning at 6am and jumped back into the car and drove another 200 miles to drop it off at Collectors Choice where it will be repaired from the plywood accident.
>
> It was a pleasure meeting up with everyone in the MAP Squadron who were a great bunch of guys (and gal). It was an experience that I will never forget.
>
> Tom Shinrock
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: 'M Grillot' <msjaan at sbcglobal.net>; 'B Hower' <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; JJD1010 <JJD1010 at aol.com>; rrsantilli <rrsantilli at att.net>; alex.engles1 <alex.engles1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: bob <bob at radefeld.com>; sdlgibson <sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net>; cmccann1972 <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; rtaspl <rtaspl at aol.com>; knottsj <knottsj at galstar.com>; mbradley <mbradley at digitalflak.com>; tmshinro <tmshinro at aol.com>; bob <bob at knoxtextiles.com>; mgilmore11 <mgilmore11 at mchsi.com>; epmoses3 <epmoses3 at yahoo.com>; grayjim <grayjim at att.net>; jdwd2685 <jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net>; adin <adin at frontier.net>; uniquengines <uniquengines at sbcglobal.net>; jpeaden47 <jpeaden47 at yahoo.com>; lizardman462 <lizardman462 at aol.com>; ronfleming <ronfleming at mindspring.com>; ccunnyng <ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:13 pm
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
>
>
> Dear Guys,
>
>
> I am still trying to get caught up.
>
>
> The night before departure we had dinner and Tom asked to use the garage to add some clutch fluid. His mysterious fluid loss was due to a failed slave cylinder. I had a spare long throw unit and Todd Reid popped it in and adjusted the push rod to compensate for the longer throw and Tom was ready for the departure.
>
> Monday was clear and sunny. The morning schedule went along on time. The trip south perfectly encountered a rolling rendezvous with Jim Gray and we pressed onward to the turnpike. Disaster struck before the first toll booth when a sheet of plywood on the road was kicked up by the preceding Pantera. It was a low altitude cruise missile that Tom couldn?t avoid. It damaged his front spoiler and fog light. A side of the shoulder repair with large zip ties secured things and mercifully no damage was done to the fans, radiator or headlights. Tom pressed onward without any driveability problems. We had another perfect rolling rendezvous with Shawn Gibson about a hundred miles down the road where he joined us with his Pantera on a trailer due to its freshly installed engine.
>
>
> In Wichita Falls, Jeff Detrich and Mike DiTucci joined us for a squadron strength of eight total. We encountered some good roads between Wichita Falls and Lubbock. Wonderfully undulating and high speed. Just mesquite and no other real traffic. Lunch in Lubbock at Ruby Tequilla?s preceded the final push to Roswell.
>
> Jeff?s recently reassembled Pantera was having some shifting problems which were due to a slightly loose trunion bearing support. The La Quinta Inn was ready for us. The next morning was clear, sunny and crisp. Jeff was still having some shifting problems. Then Jim couldn?t start his car. During the night some Italian gremlin disabled the ignition wire from the switch to the solenoid. Shawn made temporary repairs and Jim did not turn off his Pantera from 8 a.m. until 7;30 pm that evening.
>
> We shortly ran into more problems with Jeff?s car in the from of ?overheating? indicated by a temp gauge in the red zone. After a couple of nervous stops, Mike DiTucci used a temp gun to ascertain that all the real temps on the engine and cooling system were normal and the temp sender was wonky. While we were dealing with this Jim Gray and Shaun pressed onward due to rising engine temps on Jim?s car. We were not to see them again until Las Cruces. Finally, we hit some wonderful New Mexico roads with curves and rises and descents.
>
> Somewhere east of Las Cruces, the chronically cursed AC system that was *supposed* to be fixed by the experts, blew yet again rendering Alex happy that he was wearing khaki shorts rather than jeans??.
>
> We hit I-10 in Las Cruces and enjoyed truck saturated super slab until we all exited for the mandatory Border Patrol check point. What a bizarre thing it is. Alex upset the guards. The trick question to pass the check point was ?Where were you born?? Clearly, this fiendishly clever question was designed to reveal illegal immigrants as well as infiltrating al-Qaida terrorists. Only our leaders and officials in Washington could have come up with something this effective against evil doers. We finally pressed onward off the interstate and hit the very long small town of Globe that seemed to go on for ten miles. It suddenly stopped and we found ourselves on a wonderful canyon road that was complicated by filthy windshields and the glare of the setting sun. We kept going. In short order we were a bit over the 50 mph limit and about 2/3rds of the way down went zip-zip-zip seven times past a law enforcement vehicle ascending the canyon. It would appea
> r that he didn?t or couldn?t get turned around as miraculously we didn?t encounter a roadblock nor helicopters on our entrance into a dark Phoenix. Bob Knox led us to the resort with his GPS.
>
> We were among the very first there and despite our delays we arrived before the Houston group due to their trailer tire problems.
>
> The resort was very nice and way better than the old Plaza, the Orleans or the Reno CircusCircus. The next morning saw the squadron performing cleanup and repair. Shaun and Jim got the ignition fixed.
>
>
> The return trip had the squadron split into a northern group and a southern group. The northern group consisting of our northern members plus Shaun with his Pantera on a trailer opted for the faster, more boring , but more efficient I-40 back east. They consisted of Bob Knox, Bob Radefeld, Tom Shinrock and Shaun. The southern contingent consisted of the Engles brothers, Jim Gray and Jeff Detrich.
>
> We launched and had a good run back to the east. All was running well. We made Roswell before sundown and got the news from the northern brothers about Bob Knox?s tire and wheel problem as well as the transplant from Shaun?s trailered Pantera. They pressed on and I trust they all arrived home without further incidents.
>
> We took off Monday morning after careful and anxious study of the rain and storm forecast along the route. The chances had decreased overnight and we made good time. The Valentine saved us from a couple of officers, but a fair number of cops did *not* have their radar on, which made for some worrisome surprises. The only mishap occurred in the west Texas panhandle when my driver?s window refused to come up. Quickie repairs didn?t make it budge and it stayed down for another three hundred miles. Sigh. Jeff peeled off in Wichita Falls to head back to DFW and we pressed home with brisk speed that somehow didn?t get the attention of the parked OK Highway Patrol on the shoulder with his radar OFF. We returned to PRI at 7 p.m. Monday evening with all systems go except the window and the darn AC that blew near Las Cruces on the way down and was actually working until the window failure rendered it useless. Clean up will progress this weekend, most likely.
>
> The trip out is faster and more interesting. The trip home does seem to be longer and less exciting, but the back roads sure beat the boredom of the I-40 trips of old to Las Vegas.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
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> From: M Grillot [mailto:msjaan at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30 PM
> To: Charles Engles; B Hower; JJD1010 at aol.com; rrsantilli at att.net; alex.engles1 at gmail.com
> Cc: bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com; rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com; bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net; jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net; jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com; ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com
> Subject: Re: MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
>
>
> glad everyone is safe and sound.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; JJD1010 at aol.com; rrsantilli at att.net; alex.engles1 at gmail.com
> Cc: bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com; rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com; bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net; jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net; jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com; ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com; msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 10:24:20 PM
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
> Dear Guys,
>
>
> Just back, Alex Engles, Jim Gray and I made it home to OKC with running cars and the only mishap on the return leg was an acute driver?s window failure that is suspected to be a bad window motor. We shall see. Further details when I get dug out at home and the office. No tickets. Pantera one made about 19 mpg and Pantera two made 20 mpg. Purdy good, all in all.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: B Hower [mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:20 PM
> To: JJD1010 at aol.com; rrsantilli at att.net; alex.engles1 at gmail.com; Charles Engles
> Cc: bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com; rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com; bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net; jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net; jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com; ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com; msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron Phone numbers
>
>
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>
> Guys,
>
>
>
> I just left ( Hooters ) Topeka about 1:30. Tom and Bob were pulling out toward OKC then.
>
> Tom pulled into Hooters about 12:15. I sure wish I had my car on the road with them.
>
>
>
> Bud #3400
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/22/12, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron Phone numbers
> To: JJD1010 at aol.com, rrsantilli at att.net, alex.engles1 at gmail.com
> Cc: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com, bob at radefeld.com, sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net, cmccann1972 at gmail.com, rtaspl at aol.com, knottsj at galstar.com, mbradley at digitalflak.com, tmshinro at aol.com, bob at knoxtextiles.com, mgilmore11 at mchsi.com, epmoses3 at yahoo.com, grayjim at att.net, jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net, adin at frontier.net, uniquengines at sbcglobal.net, jpeaden47 at yahoo.com, lizardman462 at aol.com, ronfleming at mindspring.com, ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com, msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 3:10 PM
>
>
> Dear Squadron,
>
>
>
>
>
> Good news: Alex flew in as planned. Both Panteras are ready and Alex brought two little hand held radios. Ray loaned me his Valentine One radar detector.
>
> Bad news: The vintage CB radios carefully aged in a closet for about twenty years light up with power, but don?t seem to actually broadcast and receive. No time to go to Jim?s CB wizard. Sigh.
>
> No word from the Northern Guys about their arrival in OKC.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> From: JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: cengles at cox.net; rrsantilli at att.net; alex.engles1 at gmail.com; jjd1010 at aol.com
> Cc: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com; bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com; rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com; bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net; jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net; jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com; ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com; msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: MAP Squadron Phone numbers
>
>
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> Subj: MAP Squadron Phone Numbers
>
>
> Shaun Gibson 580-591-2923
>
>
> Alex Engles 405-245-6633
>
> Jeff Detrich 972-333-3368
>
> Mike DiTucci (my co-driver) 817-455-1440
>
> Jim Gray 580-467-0088
>
> Chuck Engles CB Radio only
>
> Bob Knox 419-633-2222
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:20:33 +0000
> From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] So-Cal "Save the date"
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY169-W123274006B679DA52E65784BB2E0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Why do all the "great" Pantera events either occur on the West Coast or the Eastern mountains! ---------Houston - Dallas - Oklahoma!--------- How about Galveston? --Bill Lewis
>
>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:24:20 -0700
>> From: robpantera at sbcglobal.net
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] So-Cal "Save the date"
>>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> It's official! Foothill Panteras world famous "Panteras in the Park" picnic is scheduled for Saturday, June 23rd in Sierra Madre, California. Open to all members of the DeTomaso community, it's a friendly casual gathering where all you have to do is bring your Pantera and we provide the rest. This event usually brings out 20-30 Panteras, so come on out and hang with the crowd. Stay tuned for more details.
>>
>> For more info, contact Rob D'Orazio at robpantera at sbcglobal.net or by phone at (626)795-0915.
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:04:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MAP Squadron De-briefing
> To: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Tom,
>
> We were honored to have you in the MAP Squadron.? I did not know that Cory
> Gehling (?) was still doing Pantera work at Collectors Choice.
>
> Jim Gray
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 11:07:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
>
> Chuck,
> Great write up.? Got home without any problems other than severe lack of sleep.?
> Doing the trip out in 3 ten hour days was surprisingly fun.? Doing the trip back
> in a 20 hour day and a 12 hour day on just 8 hours of sleep between both days
> was torture.? Due to forecasted storms for the next week the next day was the
> best opportunity to avoid rain so I got up the next morning at 6am and jumped
> back into the car and drove another 200 miles to drop it off at Collectors
> Choice where it will be repaired from the plywood accident.
>
> It was a pleasure meeting up with everyone in the MAP Squadron who were a great
> bunch of guys (and gal).? It was an experience that I will never forget.
>
> Tom Shinrock
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: 'M Grillot' <msjaan at sbcglobal.net>; 'B Hower' <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>;
> JJD1010 <JJD1010 at aol.com>; rrsantilli <rrsantilli at att.net>; alex.engles1
> <alex.engles1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: bob <bob at radefeld.com>; sdlgibson <sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net>; cmccann1972
> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; rtaspl <rtaspl at aol.com>; knottsj <knottsj at galstar.com>;
> mbradley <mbradley at digitalflak.com>; tmshinro <tmshinro at aol.com>; bob
> <bob at knoxtextiles.com>; mgilmore11 <mgilmore11 at mchsi.com>; epmoses3
> <epmoses3 at yahoo.com>; grayjim <grayjim at att.net>; jdwd2685
> <jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net>; adin <adin at frontier.net>; uniquengines
> <uniquengines at sbcglobal.net>; jpeaden47 <jpeaden47 at yahoo.com>; lizardman462
> <lizardman462 at aol.com>; ronfleming <ronfleming at mindspring.com>; ccunnyng
> <ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:13 pm
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
>
>
> Dear Guys,
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I am still trying to get caught up.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The night before departure we had dinner and Tom asked to use the
> garage to add some clutch fluid.? His mysterious fluid loss was due to a failed
> slave cylinder.? I had a spare long throw unit and Todd Reid popped it in and
> adjusted the push rod to compensate for the longer throw and Tom was ready for
> the departure.?
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Monday was clear and sunny.? The morning schedule went along on
> time.? The trip south perfectly encountered a rolling rendezvous with Jim Gray
> and? we pressed onward to the turnpike.? Disaster struck before the first toll
> booth when a? sheet of plywood on the road was kicked up by the preceding
> Pantera.? It was a low altitude cruise missile that Tom couldn?t avoid.? It
> damaged his front spoiler and fog light.? A side of the shoulder repair with
> large zip ties secured things and mercifully no damage was done to the fans,
> radiator or headlights.? Tom pressed onward without any driveability problems.?
> ? We had another perfect rolling rendezvous with Shawn Gibson about a hundred
> miles down the road where he joined us with his Pantera on a trailer due to its
> freshly installed engine.?
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? In Wichita Falls, Jeff Detrich and Mike DiTucci joined us for a
> squadron strength of eight total.? We encountered some good roads between
> Wichita Falls and Lubbock.? Wonderfully undulating and high speed.? Just
> mesquite and no other real traffic.? Lunch in Lubbock at Ruby Tequilla?s
> preceded the final push to Roswell.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jeff?s recently reassembled Pantera was having some shifting
> problems which were due to a slightly loose trunion bearing support.? The La
> Quinta Inn was ready for us.? The next morning was clear, sunny and crisp.? Jeff
> was still having some shifting problems.? Then Jim couldn?t start his car.?
> During the night some Italian gremlin disabled the ignition wire from the switch
> to the solenoid.? Shawn made temporary repairs and Jim did not turn off his
> Pantera from 8 a.m. until 7;30 pm that evening.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? We shortly ran into more problems with Jeff?s car in the from of
> ?overheating? indicated by a temp gauge in the red zone.? After a couple of
> nervous stops, Mike DiTucci used a temp gun to ascertain that all the real temps
> on the engine and cooling system were normal and the temp sender was wonky.?
> While we were dealing with this Jim Gray and Shaun pressed onward due to rising
> engine temps on Jim?s car.? We were not to see them again until Las Cruces.?
> Finally,? we hit some wonderful New Mexico roads with curves and rises and
> descents.?
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? Somewhere east of Las Cruces, the chronically cursed AC system that
> was *supposed* to be fixed by the experts, blew yet again rendering Alex happy
> that he was wearing khaki shorts rather than jeans??.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? We hit I-10 in Las Cruces and enjoyed truck saturated super slab
> until we all exited for the mandatory Border Patrol check point.? What a bizarre
> thing it is.? Alex upset the guards.? The trick question to pass the check point
> was ?Where were you born??? ? Clearly, this fiendishly clever question was
> designed to reveal illegal immigrants as well as infiltrating al-Qaida
> terrorists.? Only our leaders and officials in Washington could have come up
> with something this effective against evil doers.? We finally pressed onward off
> the interstate and hit the very long small town of Globe that seemed to go on
> for ten miles.? It suddenly stopped and we found ourselves on a wonderful canyon
> road? that was complicated by filthy windshields and the glare of the setting
> sun.? We kept going.? In short order we were a bit over the 50 mph limit and
> about 2/3rds of the way down went zip-zip-zip seven times past a law enforcement
> vehicle ascending the canyon.? ? It would appear that he didn?t or couldn?t get
> turned around as miraculously we didn?t encounter a roadblock nor helicopters on
> our entrance into a dark Phoenix.? Bob Knox led us to the resort with his GPS.?
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? We were among the very first there and despite our delays we
> arrived before the Houston group due to their trailer tire problems.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The resort was very nice and way better than the old Plaza, the
> Orleans or the Reno CircusCircus.? ? The next morning saw the squadron
> performing cleanup and repair.? Shaun and Jim got the ignition fixed.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The return trip had the squadron split into a northern group and
> a southern group.? The northern group consisting of our northern members plus
> Shaun with his Pantera on a trailer opted for the faster, more boring , but more
> efficient I-40 back east.? They consisted of Bob Knox, Bob Radefeld, Tom
> Shinrock and Shaun.? The southern contingent consisted of the Engles brothers,
> Jim Gray and Jeff Detrich.?
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? We launched and had a good run back to the east.? All was running
> well.? We made Roswell before sundown and got the news from the northern
> brothers about Bob Knox?s tire and wheel problem as well as the transplant from
> Shaun?s trailered Pantera.? They pressed on and I trust they all arrived home
> without further incidents.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? We took off Monday morning after careful and anxious study of the
> rain and storm forecast along the route.? The chances had decreased overnight
> and we made good time.? The Valentine saved us from a couple of officers, but a
> fair number of cops did *not* have their radar on, which made for some worrisome
> surprises.? The only mishap occurred in the west Texas panhandle when my
> driver?s window refused to come up.? Quickie repairs didn?t make it budge and it
> stayed down for another three hundred miles.? Sigh.? Jeff peeled off in Wichita
> Falls to head back to DFW and we pressed home with brisk speed that somehow
> didn?t get the attention of the parked OK Highway Patrol on the shoulder with
> his radar OFF.? We returned to PRI at 7 p.m. Monday evening with all systems go
> except the window and the darn AC that blew near Las Cruces on the way down and
> was actually working until the window failure rendered it useless.? Clean up
> will progress this weekend, most likely.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? The trip out is faster and more interesting.? The trip home does
> seem to be longer and less exciting, but the back roads sure beat the boredom of
> the I-40 trips of old to Las Vegas.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>
>
>
>
> From: M Grillot [mailto:msjaan at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30 PM
> To: Charles Engles; B Hower; JJD1010 at aol.com; rrsantilli at att.net;
> alex.engles1 at gmail.com
> Cc: bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com;
> rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com;
> bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net;
> jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net;
> jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com;
> ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com
> Subject: Re: MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
>
>
> glad everyone is safe and sound.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>; JJD1010 at aol.com; rrsantilli at att.net;
> alex.engles1 at gmail.com
> Cc: bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com;
> rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com;
> bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net;
> jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net;
> jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com;
> ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com; msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Mon, April 30, 2012 10:24:20 PM
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron De-briefing
>
> Dear Guys,
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Just back,? Alex Engles, Jim Gray and I made it home to OKC with
> running cars and the only mishap on the return leg was an acute driver?s window
> failure that is suspected to be a bad window motor.? We shall see.? Further
> details when I get dug out at home and the office.? No tickets.? Pantera one
> made about 19 mpg and Pantera two made 20 mpg.? Purdy good, all in all.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: B Hower [mailto:b.hower3400 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:20 PM
> To: JJD1010 at aol.com; rrsantilli at att.net; alex.engles1 at gmail.com; Charles Engles
> Cc: bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net; cmccann1972 at gmail.com;
> rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com; mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com;
> bob at knoxtextiles.com; mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net;
> jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net;
> jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com;
> ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com; msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron Phone numbers
>
>
>
>
>
> Guys,
>
>
>
> I just left ( Hooters ) Topeka about 1:30. Tom and Bob were pulling out toward
> OKC then.
>
> Tom pulled into Hooters about 12:15. I sure wish I had my car on the road with
> them.
>
>
>
>
> Bud #3400
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/22/12, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Subject: RE: MAP Squadron Phone numbers
> To: JJD1010 at aol.com, rrsantilli at att.net, alex.engles1 at gmail.com
> Cc: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com, bob at radefeld.com, sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net,
> cmccann1972 at gmail.com, rtaspl at aol.com, knottsj at galstar.com,
> mbradley at digitalflak.com, tmshinro at aol.com, bob at knoxtextiles.com,
> mgilmore11 at mchsi.com, epmoses3 at yahoo.com, grayjim at att.net,
> jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net, adin at frontier.net, uniquengines at sbcglobal.net,
> jpeaden47 at yahoo.com, lizardman462 at aol.com, ronfleming at mindspring.com,
> ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com, msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 3:10 PM
>
>
> Dear Squadron,
>
>
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? Good news: Alex flew in as planned.? Both Panteras are ready and Alex
> brought two little hand held radios.? Ray loaned me his Valentine One radar
> detector.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? Bad news:? The vintage CB radios carefully aged in a closet for
> about twenty years light up with power, but don?t seem to actually broadcast and
> receive.? No time to go to Jim?s CB wizard.? Sigh.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? No word from the Northern Guys about their arrival in OKC.?
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> From: JJD1010 at aol.com [mailto:JJD1010 at aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: cengles at cox.net; rrsantilli at att.net; alex.engles1 at gmail.com; jjd1010 at aol.com
> Cc: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com; bob at radefeld.com; sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net;
> cmccann1972 at gmail.com; rtaspl at aol.com; knottsj at galstar.com;
> mbradley at digitalflak.com; tmshinro at aol.com; bob at knoxtextiles.com;
> mgilmore11 at mchsi.com; epmoses3 at yahoo.com; grayjim at att.net;
> jdwd2685 at sbcglobal.net; adin at frontier.net; uniquengines at sbcglobal.net;
> jpeaden47 at yahoo.com; lizardman462 at aol.com; ronfleming at mindspring.com;
> ccunnyng at ix.netcom.com; msjaan at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: MAP Squadron Phone numbers
>
>
>
> Subj: MAP Squadron Phone Numbers
>
>
> Shaun Gibson 580-591-2923
>
>
> Alex Engles 405-245-6633
>
> Jeff Detrich 972-333-3368
>
> Mike DiTucci (my co-driver) 817-455-1440
>
> Jim Gray 580-467-0088
>
> Chuck Engles CB Radio only
>
> Bob Knox 419-633-2222
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:05:07 -0600
> From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Expensive tickets . . .
> To: "panteras" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <08AA7351DC2F485DAB803CB288D23901 at ZTxp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> If/when you get stopped for speeding, do NOT wear your Texas Mile T-shirt that says "No Speed Limit" on the back.
>
> Don't ask me how I know . . .
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: detomaso at realbig.com, Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> My DOAE Square Bore intake's carb. mounting surface is ~ 4 degrees --- low front.
> ?
> Bud #3400
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>
>
> From: Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 1:14 AM
>
>
> 2012-05-02 01:01, MikeLDrew at aol.com skrev:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Larry Finch was kind enough to mail me what is purportedly an original
>> standard Mustang 351C dipstick and tube.???Although the tube and dipstick were
>> both a bit mangled, I was able to get them installed.
>>
>> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the dipstick extended much
>> further into the oil pan than even the too-long Pantera dipstick????
>>
>> Check out all three side-by-side here:
>>
>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=36086
>>
>> Now I'm REALLY confused!
>
> Isn't this due to the tilted install in a Mustang? The front of the
> engine sits higher, which necessitates a longer dipstick to reach the
> oil level.
>
> So even the too-long Pantera dipstick appears to compensate slightly for
> the level install in a Pantera, but apparently not enough.
>
> Does anyone know the tilt angle of a standard Mustang engine?
>
>>
>> Mike
>
> Thomas
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
> Sorry, I meant to send this to the forum also.
> Bud #3400
> ?
>
> --- On Wed, 5/2/12, B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 3:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike,
> ?
> I pulled?another Cleveland stick and tube -- tubes not identical but sticks have the same DOAE-6750-A number and check out the same. One tube has been bent above mounting bolt hole and I didn't take time to do the tape measurement thing. The two tubes are not the same length from ridge to bottom end of tube -- which does not affect full marks. What is the # on your last stick?
> ?
> I suppose that?DeTomaso may have made an orginal adjustment ( for difference in engine mounting level ) and later found another was needed.
> ?
> Bud #3400
>
> --- On Tue, 5/1/12, MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 6:01 PM
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Larry Finch was kind enough to mail me what is purportedly an original
> standard Mustang 351C dipstick and tube.???Although the tube and dipstick were
> both a bit mangled, I was able to get them installed.
>
> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the dipstick extended much
> further into the oil pan than even the too-long Pantera dipstick????
>
> Check out all three side-by-side here:
>
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=36086
>
> Now I'm REALLY confused!
>
> Mike
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com
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>
>
> In a message dated 5/2/12 14 39 10, b.hower3400 at yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>> I pulled?another Cleveland stick and tube -- tubes not identical but
>> sticks have the same DOAE-6750-A number and check out the same.
>>
>
>>>> It seems that Ford used the same dipstick for everything and just
> altered the tube arrangement as necessary. I have two original 427 Ford
> dipsticks and two for my 302, and they all have the same characteristics and the
> same DOAE-6750-A number...
>
> Mike
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 18:06:00 -0500
> From: <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] So-Cal "Save the date"
> To: detomaso at realbig.com, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> Message-ID: <20120502180600.K55LV.106346.root at txofep02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Bill
>
> Stop looking to others to do something. You are retired, plan and orchestrate an event. We will be behind you 100%.
>
> JT
>
> ---- Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> =============
>
> Why do all the "great" Pantera events either occur on the West Coast or the Eastern mountains! ---------Houston - Dallas - Oklahoma!--------- How about Galveston? --Bill Lewis
>
>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:24:20 -0700
>> From: robpantera at sbcglobal.net
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] So-Cal "Save the date"
>>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> It's official! Foothill Panteras world famous "Panteras in the Park" picnic is scheduled for Saturday, June 23rd in Sierra Madre, California. Open to all members of the DeTomaso community, it's a friendly casual gathering where all you have to do is bring your Pantera and we provide the rest. This event usually brings out 20-30 Panteras, so come on out and hang with the crowd. Stay tuned for more details.
>>
>> For more info, contact Rob D'Orazio at robpantera at sbcglobal.net or by phone at (626)795-0915.
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 18:58:11 -0700
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Expensive tickets . . .
> To: <adin at frontier.net>, <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> I was wearing my new Pantera t-shirt, but I don't think he noticed, nor do I think it would have made a difference. It wasn't the least bit controversial!
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>> From: adin at frontier.net
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:05:07 -0600
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Expensive tickets . . .
>>
>> If/when you get stopped for speeding, do NOT wear your Texas Mile T-shirt that says "No Speed Limit" on the back.
>>
>> Don't ask me how I know . . .
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 20:05:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Save a few $s on Delo 400 15-40
> To: Pantera List Serve <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Costco has Delo 15-40 for $30 for 3 gallons through Sunday.? Several folks have mentioned that they really like this stuff.
> ?
> Ken
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 05:13:40 +0200
> From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
> To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> 4 degrees is about 3.5 cm in height over a 50 cm distance, or in Mikesspeak, 1 3/8" over a 20" distance, even though I noticed that his tape measure was showing both cm and inches. ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> 2 maj 2012 kl. 23:24 skrev B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>:
>
>> My DOAE Square Bore intake's carb. mounting surface is ~ 4 degrees --- low front.
>>
>> Bud #3400
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>>
>> From: Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MORE dipstick confusion???
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 1:14 AM
>>
>> 2012-05-02 01:01, MikeLDrew at aol.com skrev:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Larry Finch was kind enough to mail me what is purportedly an original
>>> standard Mustang 351C dipstick and tube. Although the tube and dipstick were
>>> both a bit mangled, I was able to get them installed.
>>>
>>> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the dipstick extended much
>>> further into the oil pan than even the too-long Pantera dipstick????
>>>
>>> Check out all three side-by-side here:
>>>
>>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=36086
>>>
>>> Now I'm REALLY confused!
>>
>> Isn't this due to the tilted install in a Mustang? The front of the
>> engine sits higher, which necessitates a longer dipstick to reach the
>> oil level.
>>
>> So even the too-long Pantera dipstick appears to compensate slightly for
>> the level install in a Pantera, but apparently not enough.
>>
>> Does anyone know the tilt angle of a standard Mustang engine?
>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Thomas
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 22:14:59 -0700
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] attorney in Nevada...?
> To: Pantera List Serve <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> I spoke with my local attorney, and he said since I received the violation in Nevada (I thought it was Idaho, originally) I need to speak with a Nevada attorney who is good at dealing with moving violations.
> Anyone in Nevada have a good lawyer referral? If not, I'll search via the internet--although I hate to gamble when it comes to Nevada...!
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 22:26:50 -0700
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] calling Larry Finch, Bob Benson and/or Gary
> Kono
> To: <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>, Pantera List Serve
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>
> Thanks Peter.
> Larry, Bob and Gary--is this something with which you can help?
> Thanks a million.
> Chris
>
>
>> Subject: attorney in Nevada...?
>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
>> From: peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 05:20:30 +0000
>>
>> Check with some PCNC members who received tickets leaving Pahrump at a recent fun rally. I think calling Larry Finch, Bob Benson and/or Gary Kono might recall who/what/where. Worked out well I recall.> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>> Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 22:14:59
>> To: Pantera List Serve<detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] attorney in Nevada...?
>>
>>
>> I spoke with my local attorney, and he said since I received the violation in Nevada (I thought it was Idaho, originally) I need to speak with a Nevada attorney who is good at dealing with moving violations.
>> Anyone in Nevada have a good lawyer referral? If not, I'll search via the internet--although I hate to gamble when it comes to Nevada...!
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
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