[DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden

Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 14 10:57:25 EDT 2012


You can't compare crime rates between Texas and Sweden.  There are so many
differences, it is impossible to associate crime rates with guns.  What
works for you, won't work for us.

You can, however, compare/contrast the state laws in the U.S.  The states
that issue concealed handgun permits have lower crime rates, lower murder
rates, and lower robbery rates than those that forbid concealed hand guns.
That isn't an opinion.  That's a fact.  In America, crime clearly goes UP
with gun control.  The statistics are so obvious, it isn't even close.

Guns or no, I feel very strongly that I have a right to use deadly force to
protect myself, my family, and to some extent my property.  If someone
breaks into my house to kill me, I'm going to kill 'em right back.

I also feel very strongly that my right to protect myself does not give me a
free pass to kill anyone I want.  If an intruder is inside my home and a
threat to me, they are fair game.  Once they are no longer a threat, they
are no longer in season.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Roland Jaeckel
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:22 AM
To: Thomas Tornblom; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden

And at least, we are still unijured alive with less crime, murders and so 
on.
Ah, i forgot, we also have less (no) guns and weapons in our homes.

Roland
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Tornblom" <thomas at hax.se>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden


> Mike Thomas skrev 2012-03-14 01.47:
>> Not just Sweden, Bill, but our brothers to the north (Canada) are just as
>> whacked when it comes to this sort of stuff.
>
> I would say most civilized countries are like this ;)
>
>> Mike Thomas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bill Lewis
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:25 AM
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden
>>
>>
>> In the book, after Berger's home is broken into, she gets some golf clubs

>> to
>> hit the intruder/burglar with.  Later, she is told that if the intruder 
>> did
>> come back inside her home and she hit him with the golf clubs that she 
>> could
>> be charged with assault, and if she killed him, be charged with murder. 
>> IS
>> THIS REALLY THE LAW IN SWEDEN!!!!     -------------- I'm appalled!! 
>> Here
>> in America, one has the right to defend theirself and their home.  And, 
>> here
>> in Texas, you have the right to shoot and kill them.     ----Bill Lewis
>>
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