[DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden

Thomas Tornblom thomas at hax.se
Wed Mar 14 01:22:45 EDT 2012


Brent Stewart skrev 2012-03-14 00.06:
> I don't think this is about guns, necessarily - it is about the right to
> protect yourself in your home if you are being robbed, burglarized, or
> attacked in any way - isn't it?

But you have the right to protect yourself. You don't have the right to 
kill someone doing it, unless your life is in danger.

I don't think I have ever heard of anyone having been robbed in their 
own home at gunpoint.

>
> brent

Thomas

>
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> *From:* thomas <thomas at hax.se>
> *To:* Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* "<detomaso at realbig.com>" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden
>
> Yep, I'm fine with how it is. I would not want to have (more) people
> running around with guns.
>
> I have not been robbed, or burglarized. The crime rate is probably quite
> a bit lower here, and I think we are generally a peaceful society.
>
> We have lots of guns in Sweden, but that is for hunting, and there are
> stiff rules for getting a license, and also how you keep them. I think
> very few, if any, would want more liberal gun laws.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> 13 mar 2012 kl. 22:35 skrev Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com
> <mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com>>:
>
>  > Thomas, are you ok with how it is in Sweden? I know in America there
> is a big divide between folks who think that "Owning guns is a right!"
> and folks who want to outlaw them. I think that the "outlaw-guns" crowd
> have flaws in their thinking. Bad people use guns illegally mostly. It
> used to be common to see people in pickups with rifles in gunracks
> behind the back seat driving around. Have you ever been burglarized?
> robbed? We were burglarized years ago and it still hurts! My wife was
> mugged in a Wal-Mart parking lot in broad daylight 2 years ago. Crime
> may be more prevalent here - which makes one more defensive. ---Bill
>  >
>  > > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:38:27 +0100
>  > > From: thomas at hax.se <mailto:thomas at hax.se>
>  > > To: detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>  > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - "Hornet's Nest" - Sweden
>  > >
>  > > Bill Lewis skrev 2012-03-13 18.25:
>  > > >
>  > > > In the book, after Berger's home is broken into, she gets some
> golf clubs to hit the intruder/burglar with. Later, she is told that if
> the intruder did come back inside her home and she hit him with the golf
> clubs that she could be charged with assault, and if she killed him, be
> charged with murder. IS THIS REALLY THE LAW IN SWEDEN!!!! --------------
> I'm appalled!! Here in America, one has the right to defend theirself
> and their home. And, here in Texas, you have the right to shoot and kill
> them. ----Bill Lewis
>  > >
>  > > It would not likely be murder, probably manslaughter.
>  > >
>  > > You have the right to use appropriate force, just enough to defend
>  > > yourself and others, but not excess force.
>  > >
>  > > I think you can use a great deal of force without being hammered in
> court.
>  > >
>  > > We abolished the death penalty in peacetime in 1921, although the last
>  > > execution was in 1910. The death penalty in wartime was abolished
> in 1973.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thomas
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