[DeTomaso] Clutch

David adin at frontier.net
Fri Mar 9 01:24:10 EST 2012


Yes, I realize that. But slapping things together blindly without thought can teach one a lesson, too. 

On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>  
>     But if the problem only happens when the engine revs, you can't do a static check.  I heard that a lot of the bell housings were machined by the weights coming out of the pressure plate housing when the engine was first rev'd, doesn't sound real good.
>  
> Ken
> 
> From: David in Durango <adin at frontier.net>
> To: Rich <hoppe1 at cox.net>; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; panteras <detomaso at realbig.com> 
> Cc: TPR List <tpr at teampanteraracing.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch
> 
> Rich,
> 
> That is an interesting idea.  I'm not sure what the structural strength 
> needs of the bellhousing might be.
> 
> Never-the-less: a good reminder to check everything before all is buttoned 
> up and installed.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rich" <hoppe1 at cox.net>
> To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; "David in Durango" 
> <adin at frontier.net>; "panteras" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Cc: "TPR List" <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch
> 
> 
> >I have just remembered something that I thought everyone did but have not 
> >heard on the list.
> > The inside of the bellhousing can be ground down near the bolts to make 
> > room for the clutch fork and weights.
> > I seem to think every bellhousing I have seen has been ground off.
> > Is it only an arizona thing to do?
> > Rich
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Ken Green
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:29 PM
> > To: David in Durango ; panteras
> > Cc: TPR List
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> >    I think the common failure of the pressure plate contacting the inside 
> > of the bell housing is with a typical 3 finger clutch.  There are roughly 
> > cylindrical shaped weights that can be seen through the three openings in 
> > the pressure plate housing.  If you do a trial fit there is clearance, but 
> > when a motor revs, the weights come out and hit the inside of the bell 
> > housing.  If you look at a similar Pantera pressure plate, these weights 
> > are gone.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > From: David in Durango <adin at frontier.net>
> > To: panteras <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Cc: TPR List <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:21 AM
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Clutch
> >
> > First, thanks to all that offered some comment - it all helps make a 
> > decision.  I hope I didn't miss a personal thank you to everyone.
> >
> > What we learned:
> >
> > I have a centerforce alum flywheel, single bolt pattern.  DQ (Dennis 
> > Quella) is a McLeod dealer and will check on what help McLeod can offer. 
> > (We know that re-drilling the flywheel may not be the best idea.)  I may 
> > just put a new disc in it.  DQ also has an adjustable TO brg (mine did 
> > work, but was failed) and will coach me through the setup.  DQ was more 
> > than willing to spend time with me on the phone to determine options and 
> > fixes.  DQ is doing research w/ McLeod now.
> >
> > Apparently, the CF (centerforce) clutch has the "magic wts." (my term) 
> > that I want to avoid, if I can afford a new McLeod and they have a PP to 
> > fit.  I can't afford to replace the flywheel now. (Powered by SS, you 
> > know)  Just to note, a few people "don't like" the extra wts but no one 
> > could site personal experience with a problem.  I never notice increased 
> > pedal effort at high RPM.
> >
> > What caused my question was some memory of someone having a PP hit the 
> > bell housing - perhaps a Mustang clutch?
> >
> > At any rate, thanks again to all.  I'll keep you posted if I learn 
> > anything more.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > David
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