[DeTomaso] Solution for fuel sloshing out of  rear float bowl

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 20:56:24 EDT 2012


Isn't that relativity?

You could also say it is the pinion gear trying to climb the right gear.

Everything has to push on something.

On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:

> Um, no on the torque lifting the rear end. The torque on the output shafts
> is transmitted to the body using the engine mounts and the trans mount(s).
> This torque will try to tilt the body back.
> 
> Tomas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Solution for fuel sloshing out of  rear float
> bowl
> 
> 
> Most cars have the carb angled down in the front because the engine is
> tilted down in the rear to make it easier to get the transmission under the
> firewall.  The tilt is to level the carburetor, not tilt it down to help
> with fuel slosh.
> 
> Panteras have the engine mounted level, but they have intakes from front
> engine cars.  That's why we have a problem.
> 
> Panteras lift in the rear under hard acceleration.  The torque lifts the ZF
> in the front, which lifts the engine, which unloads the engine from the
> frame, which causes the rear of the car to rise - and probably the whole
> car, not just the rear.
> 
> Leaf spring cars squat because the leaf springs twist, which makes them
> shorter.  The squatting makes the tires spin easier.
> 
> Late model Mustangs also squat because the rear housing rotates.
> 
> Ladder bars prevent squat, and instead lift the rear, which plants the tires
> harder.
> 
> On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:12 AM, <klckmac at msn.com> <klckmac at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering,
>> 
>> According to Moroso below, the idea IS to have the carb tilted forward,
> not leveled. If our carbs in the stock Pantera setups are already tilted
> forward, why level them, or am I misinterpreting something here? Is the
> stock angle in the Pantera too much? By milling the original intake to level
> the carb, are we defeating the purpose of the hard acceleration and front
> end lift?
>> 
>> Ken M.
>> 72L 4443
>> 
>> From Moroso's web page:
>> To keep carburetor float-bowls “level” during acceleration, some amount of
> mounted carburetor angle is necessary
>> Moroso’s wedge plate tilts the carburetor forward 5° to provide the
> optimum angle during quick acceleration and front-end lift
>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:33:51 -0700
>> From: sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Solution for fuel sloshing out of  rear float bowl
>> To: will.kooiman at gmail.com; klckmac at msn.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> CC: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>> 
>> If you mean an angled carb spacer, Moroso makes one-I have it.  Just call
> one of the performance warehouses and have them look in the Moroso catalog.
> I think I got mine from Summit-it's a 6* angle and was about $26 iirc.
>> 
>> Shaun Gibson
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 6/25/12, MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Solution for fuel sloshing out of  rear float bowl
>> To: will.kooiman at gmail.com, klckmac at msn.com
>> Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Monday, June 25, 2012, 4:16 PM
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 6/25/12 14 08 31, will.kooiman at gmail.com writes:
>> 
>> 
>>> I bought a 2" plastic carburetor spacer and I sanded it until it was
> flat
>>> - testing it on the engine several times with a level.
>>> 
>>> That's the redneck method, but it works.
>>> 
>> 
>> Or, you can just buy an angled spacer.   Mikael Hass just bought one of
>> those, I think?   From Summit.   I just searched and couldn't find it
>> though--I'm searching with the wrong search terms. :<(
>> 
>> Mike
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