[DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
Jerry R Knotts
knottsj at galstar.com
Sun Jun 10 11:27:27 EDT 2012
Of course in additional reflection the port is in the bellhousing not the
transmission.
Even more stumped,
jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry R Knotts" <knottsj at galstar.com>
To: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>; "'List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
> Does this also beg the question is the trans in a Pantera right side up or
> upside down. Are the ports for cooling or drainage or both? How were the
> transmissions oriented in the original road graders in Germany?
>
> Inquiring minds are flummoxed,
> jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
> To: "'List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>
>
>> Generally not much air will move through an opening unless the air has
>> somewhere to go. In this case the bellhousing is pretty much sealed
>> otherwise so I foresee little air movement.
>>
>> Tomas
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SG [mailto:sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: den 10 juni 2012 16:16
>> To: 'Tomas Gunnarsson'; 'List'; Charles Engles
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>>
>>
>> Is it possible that the spinning clutch assembly act as an
>> "impeller" so to speak and draws in cooler air to aid in cooling? Some
>> of
>> the older units have 2 ports and maybe this acts as an intake and
>> exhaust.
>> Just some food for thought. Anyway, I'm keeping my cover on just to
>> help
>> keep dirt, grit, and other nasties from getting in while you drive every
>> day.
>>
>> Shaun Gibson
>>
>> --- On Sun, 6/10/12, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>> To: "'Tomas Gunnarsson'" <guson at home.se>, "'List'"
>> <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Date: Sunday, June 10, 2012, 8:37 AM
>>
>>
>> Dear Tomas,
>>
>>
>> My very amateur evaluation and opinion of the cooling
>> capacity of
>> the bellhousing port is the same as yours: It *cannot* provide
>> very much
>> cooling! Oh, well.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>> Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:17 AM
>> To: 'List'
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>>
>> I personally don't think that the open hole provides much
>> cooling
>> but if it
>> does I don't think some small holes will be enough to preserve
>> that cooling
>> capacity.
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of The DeTomaso
>> Registry Guy
>> Sent: den 10 juni 2012 02:43
>> To: 'Charles Engles'; 'Christopher Kimball'
>> Cc: 'List'
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>>
>>
>> Just drill some small holes in the cover?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: Charles Engles [mailto:cengles at cox.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:23 PM
>> To: 'Christopher Kimball'; 'The DeTomaso Registry Guy'
>> Cc: 'List'
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you do find such a screen, then please let
>> me know.
>> I would be interested.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: the lovely color coordinated plastic covers have proven to
>> be
>> satisfactory for boy racer high performance!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Christopher Kimball [mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:44 PM
>> To: Charles Engles; 'The DeTomaso Registry Guy'
>> Cc: 'List'
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, so as it always seems to be with Panteras, there are two
>> answers to the
>> question!
>>
>> Maybe I'll see if any vendors carry a screen for it since that
>> would answer
>> both questions at once...
>>
>> Thanks for the info,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: Charles Engles
>> Sent: 6/9/2012 2:21 PM
>> To: 'The DeTomaso Registry Guy'; 'Christopher Kimball'
>> Cc: 'List'
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
>>
>> Dear Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> 1) how important is it to have the hole covered,
>> and
>>
>> "Yes to prevent some tool or debris from falling in.... and
>> no(t)
>> to allow
>> heat to escape."
>>
>> Just before or during the Phoenix Rally, I was told that
>> the
>> bellhousing port was for ventilation to allow heat to escape.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guffawed at this bit of ZF trivia. At the rally, I
>> checked with
>> our POCA President and ZF expert, Les Gray. I was shocked that
>> Les
>> confirmed that the port was indeed for ventilation. I believe
>> he
>> said that
>> serious racing European Panteras have screens that cover the
>> port
>> to..."prevent some tool or debris from falling in...." and to
>> also
>> allow
>> heat to escape.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had my two Panteras adorned with the tastefully
>> color
>> coordinated port covers for a total of 100,000 miles. There
>> have
>> been no
>> known problems. The recent cross country escapade to Phoenix
>> and
>> back, over
>> 2,334 miles, by the same two Panteras at healthy speeds for long
>> distances,
>> likewise, produced no sign of a problem.
>>
>> So, that is all that I know about ZF bellhousing port
>> covers.
>> Experience seems to show that no harm seems to be done in normal
>> Pantera
>> driving with the port covered, despite what the original ZF
>> engineers
>> thought.
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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