[DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover

Tomas Gunnarsson guson at home.se
Sun Jun 10 10:39:05 EDT 2012


Generally not much air will move through an opening unless the air has
somewhere to go. In this case the bellhousing is pretty much sealed
otherwise so I foresee little air movement.

Tomas
  -----Original Message-----
  From: SG [mailto:sdlgibson at sbcglobal.net]
  Sent: den 10 juni 2012 16:16
  To: 'Tomas Gunnarsson'; 'List'; Charles Engles
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover


        Is it possible that the spinning clutch assembly act as an
"impeller" so to speak and draws in cooler air to aid in cooling?  Some of
the older units have 2 ports and maybe this acts as an intake and exhaust.
Just some food for thought.  Anyway,  I'm keeping my cover on just to help
keep dirt, grit, and other nasties from getting in while you drive every
day.

        Shaun Gibson

        --- On Sun, 6/10/12, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:


          From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
          Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover
          To: "'Tomas Gunnarsson'" <guson at home.se>, "'List'"
<detomaso at realbig.com>
          Date: Sunday, June 10, 2012, 8:37 AM


          Dear Tomas,


                     My very amateur evaluation and opinion of the cooling
capacity of
          the bellhousing port is the same as yours: It *cannot* provide
very much
          cooling!   Oh, well.


                              Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

          -----Original Message-----
          From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
          Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
          Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:17 AM
          To: 'List'
          Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover

          I personally don't think that the open hole provides much cooling
but if it
          does I don't think some small holes will be enough to preserve
that cooling
          capacity.

          Tomas

          -----Original Message-----
          From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
          [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of The DeTomaso
Registry Guy
          Sent: den 10 juni 2012 02:43
          To: 'Charles Engles'; 'Christopher Kimball'
          Cc: 'List'
          Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover


          Just drill some small holes in the cover?



          Chuck





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          From: Charles Engles [mailto:cengles at cox.net]
          Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:23 PM
          To: 'Christopher Kimball'; 'The DeTomaso Registry Guy'
          Cc: 'List'
          Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover



          Dear Chris,





                             If you do find such a screen, then please let
me know.
          I would be interested.





                                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles



          PS:  the lovely color coordinated plastic covers have proven to be
          satisfactory for boy racer high performance!







          From: Christopher Kimball [mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com]
          Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:44 PM
          To: Charles Engles; 'The DeTomaso Registry Guy'
          Cc: 'List'
          Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover



          Wow, so as it always seems to be with Panteras, there are two
answers to the
          question!

          Maybe I'll see if any vendors carry a screen for it since that
would answer
          both questions at once...

          Thanks for the info,

          Chris

          Sent from my Windows Phone

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          From: Charles Engles
          Sent: 6/9/2012 2:21 PM
          To: 'The DeTomaso Registry Guy'; 'Christopher Kimball'
          Cc: 'List'
          Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Transmission viewing hole cover

          Dear Chuck,



                  You wrote:

                         1) how important is it to have the hole covered,
and

          "Yes to prevent some tool or debris from falling in.... and no(t)
to allow
          heat to escape."

                  Just before or during the Phoenix Rally, I was told that
the
          bellhousing port was for ventilation to allow heat to escape.



                  I guffawed at this bit of ZF trivia.  At the rally, I
checked with
          our POCA President and ZF expert, Les Gray.   I was shocked that
Les
          confirmed that the port was indeed for ventilation.  I believe he
said that
          serious racing European Panteras have screens that cover the port
          to..."prevent some tool or debris from falling in...." and to also
allow
          heat to escape.



                  I have had my two Panteras adorned with the tastefully
color
          coordinated port covers for a total of 100,000 miles.  There have
been no
          known problems.  The recent cross country escapade to Phoenix and
back, over
          2,334 miles, by the same two Panteras at healthy speeds for long
distances,
          likewise, produced no sign of a problem.

                  So, that is all that I know about ZF bellhousing port
covers.
          Experience seems to show that no harm seems to be done in normal
Pantera
          driving with the port covered, despite what the original ZF
engineers
          thought.

                                  Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles











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