[DeTomaso] Engine Choices

[gow2 at rc-tech.net]

Steve what did you use for a clutch and Hyd TO bearing?

Gary

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> I did as Gary suggested and put a Ford 400 with aluminum heads and
> independent runner EFI in mine.  Yes there was some modifications but not
> that much.  I have a fairly aggressive roller cam with .612 lift but the
> EFI smooths the idle and makes it very street mannered.
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> Steve
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> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> To: michael @ michaelshortt .com
> Cc: "List Pantera " < detomaso @ realbig .com>
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:12:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [ DeTomaso ] Engine Choices
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> I always think of the Pantera as an unrefined brute. I can't get my head
> around a Pantera with a more modern V8. It's like when I see a 32 Ford
> with an LS engine it begs the question why? It's kind of like water and
> oil.
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> I am a fan of cubic inches and the tq that comes with it. Cubic inches
> allow you to make power at lower RPM's . This is great or many reasons.
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> What good is a small engine which makes 400hp at 8,000 rpm but 150hp at
> 4,000 rpm? It may be competitive for it's class and size at a large oval
> but miserable to drive.
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> Making power at lower RPM increases longevity of an engine as well.
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> Common knowledge I am putting a Ford 400 in mine; been working on it way
> to long. Re inventing the wheel at every corner. Everyone works a problem
> with an angle; here is mine.
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> The 400 has much in common with the Cleveland. It is the same bore spacing
> which means it does not push the ZF back like the FE's . 400 stroked 434
> or
> cubes. Different bell housing and different engine mount on one side. You
> would need probably need to build custom headers (although I have built
> darn near everything on this car a little different).
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> With aluminum heads weight is about the same as a Cleveland. Engine is a
> mild build which is intentional for durability and valve health. High RPM
> engines come with valve maintenance.
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> Dino-ed at 500hp, 534lbs tq . The engine developed 434lbs of Tq at
> 2000rpm.
> While that is not a monster by todays standards keep in mind the engine
> has 434lbs of tq at 2000rpm where a mouse motor would not be making any
> power to much higher RPM's .
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> Not a exact bolt in replacement but not overly complicated to swap either:
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> This is pictures from running the engine this weekend:
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> http :// www .rc-tech.net/cars2/ panttransam /434web. jpg
> Gary
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