[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 90, Issue 24
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On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:38 PM, wkooiman at earthlink.net wrote:
> I use a bolt.
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> Some things are simply terrible.
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> Other things are terribly simple.
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>> To: "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 90, Issue 24
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>> My aircleaner stud is double nutted and the top is not a wing nut but a nylock
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>> I am an old dirt bike guy and things always would fall off
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>> Bob Benson
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>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 4:00 AM, detomaso-request at realbig.com wrote:
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>>> 1. Re: FW: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City toRoswell
>>> (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
>>> 2. Re: Really dumb Techno Question: Front Bearings
>>> (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
>>> 3. Re: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City to Roswell (Jim Gray)
>>> 4. Part 2 (David in Durango)
>>> 5. Re: GTS Fender Flairs?? Differences (richard bosch)
>>> 6. Engine Autopsy (sean mundy)
>>> 7. Re: Engine Autopsy (michael at michaelshortt.com)
>>> 8. Re: Engine Autopsy (Sean Korb)
>>> 9. Re: Engine Autopsy (Dave Londry)
>>> 10. Re: Engine Autopsy (Julian Kift)
>>> 11. Re: Engine Autopsy (sean mundy)
>>> 12. Re: Engine Autopsy (Steve Hawkins)
>>> 13. Re: Engine Autopsy (michael at michaelshortt.com)
>>> 14. Re: Engine Autopsy (Corey Price)
>>> 15. Re: Engine Autopsy (Will Kooiman)
>>> 16. Re: Engine Autopsy (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>> 17. Re: Engine Autopsy (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>> 18. Re: Engine Autopsy (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>> 19. Testimonial for MSD ready-to-run distributor? (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>>> 20. Re: Testimonial for MSD ready-to-run distributor? (Roland J?ckel)
>>> 21. Re: Testimonial for MSD ready-to-run distributor? (Cullen McCann)
>>> 22. Re: Engine Autopsy (bill gaino)
>>> 23. Re: Engine Autopsy (sean mundy)
>>> 24. Re: Engine Autopsy (Asa Jay Laughton)
>>> 25. Re: Engine Autopsy (Asa Jay Laughton)
>>> 26. Test (mbefthomas)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:01:54 -0500
>>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City
>>> toRoswell
>>> To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, "'John Buckman'"
>>> <jb841 at cox.net>
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Message-ID: <2615178029202934086987729872560 at psmtp.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> <<using the computer without adolescent supervision or back up!>>
>>>
>>> Lucky for you the list is packed with adolescent back up...
>>>
>>> Larry (still growing) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Charles Engles
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:45 PM
>>> To: 'John Buckman'
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City
>>> toRoswell
>>>
>>> Dear John,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tiny.url help. All of my children are off to
>>> college and I am using the computer without adolescent supervision or back
>>> up!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ummm, the route you see is the first rough approximation. I do
>>> not expect to actually end up at the City Hall unless some phenomenal
>>> infraction of Chandler municipal traffic ordinances is incurred by the
>>> loosely organized Mid America Pantera Squadron's arrival in their fair city.
>>> I will note the correct destination address on the final iteration of the
>>> Road to Phoenix.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>>> Behalf Of John Buckman
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:53 PM
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City to Roswell
>>>
>>> Dear Dr. Engles,
>>>
>>> Rather than having to highlight several lines of characters and then having
>>> to copy and paste to one's browser,
>>> perhaps these links might be helpful.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/OKC-to-Roswell
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/Roswell-to-Chandler
>>>
>>> I have noticed that your journey appears to end at the Chandler City Hall.
>>> I wasn't aware that the City Hall has
>>> a casino and overnight accommodations. Perhaps you were planning on having
>>> to settle a future "debt" with the City of Chandler or the State of Arizona.
>>>
>>> If you're intensions are to join the POCA Fun Rally, your trip needs to be
>>> extended a few miles further, to the west side of I-10. Your destination
>>> address should be 5040 Wild Horse Pass Blvd., Chandler, AZ.
>>>
>>> I hope that you will find this information helpful. ; >)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> John
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:22:05 -0500
>>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Really dumb Techno Question: Front Bearings
>>> To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Message-ID: <2615178029632641086987809255836 at psmtp.com>
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>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> All you need to have happen to you is to have a wheel bearing fail out on a
>>> Colorado desert road, like it happened to me. You keep a closer eye on them
>>> after that and it was only 35 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nine times out of ten it is the smaller outside bearing that will go bad. It
>>> is also the EZer bearing to get off as you do not need to remove the caliper
>>> to get it off. But you should service both of them.
>>>
>>> After cleaning a bearing and blowing it out with air it may seam fun to spin
>>> the bearing with air, but it is not a good practice as you can over spin
>>> them. Inspect the small rollers for ware rings on them as this is a sign of
>>> future problems. When a bearing is going bad it will over heat and cook the
>>> grease out of it before it welds it self up. Hard braking will heat them up
>>> doing the same thing. Get to know what the normal temp should be by feeling
>>> the hubs after a drive. Not very hot at all.
>>>
>>> Last year I looked for a set of made in the USA bearings for the
>>> T-Bird...gave up after a month.
>>>
>>> Remember to always replace the race along with the wheel bearing, unless you
>>> are stuck on the desert.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry (likes the Zen of packing them) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Charles Engles
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:20 PM
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Really dumb Techno Question: Front Bearings
>>>
>>> Dear Forum,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At what time interval or mileage interval should one
>>> inspect and re-grease the front bearings? I appears to have been some time
>>> since I attended to this task. I suspect that it may well be way overdue,
>>> but I am curious as to just how long overdue it may be....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:41:57 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City to
>>> Roswell
>>> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>, John Taphorn
>>> <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> Chuck's idea of multiple small caravans, able to enjoy local scenic back roads
>>> that are nearby, would be a good idea.? We could then arrange for a conversion
>>> point in western NM (?) for the all-important massed Pantera arrival in Phoenix
>>> as needed for media attention.
>>>
>>> Just my .02
>>>
>>> Jim Gray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>>> To: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Sent: Sat, January 21, 2012 9:03:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City to Roswell
>>>
>>> Dear John,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I am partial to that route from experience.? I am
>>> sure that it is probably not a good fit for DFW or Houston.? I think
>>> coordinating a tri-city caravan may be a challenge.? ? I think that OKC
>>> contingent will have a handful of Panteras.? ? How big is Space City's
>>> contingent?? DFW's?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Looking at the map, Roswell is a bit north for a DFW
>>> start and is out of the way for Houston.? ? Maybe three smaller caravans?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards,? Chuck
>>> Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: John Taphorn [mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:49 PM
>>> To: Charles Engles
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com; 'Jim Gray'; 'Raymond Santilli'
>>> Subject: Re: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City to Roswell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the use of secondary highways on your route.? Unfortunately, that
>>> particular route is a bit out of the way for the Houston drivers, and I
>>> suspect, the Texas Metroplex contingent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you consider an alternative path out of Fort Worth which is
>>> equidistant between us?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps, I am putting to much effort into the caravan together thinking.
>>> Although, I realize that we will have at least one truck with trailer to
>>> haul spare wheel tire combos, parts and additional luggage which would
>>> enhance safety, timely arrival and comfort.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Charles Engles <mailto:cengles at cox.net>?
>>>
>>> To: John Taphorn <mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>?
>>>
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com ; 'Jim Gray' <mailto:grayjim at att.net>? ; 'Raymond
>>> Santilli' <mailto:rrsantilli at att.net>?
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:36 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: FW: Part I: Road to Phoenix---Oklahoma City to Roswell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Part I
>>>
>>> Proposed Trip from OKC to Chandler, Arizona.? This is part one for day one
>>> from OKC to Roswell, New Mexico.? There is a link for the map at the end of
>>> this email.? ? Part two for day two from Roswell, New Mexico to Chandler,
>>> Arizona is in the next separate email.
>>>
>>> Part One: contains a small? amount of superslab and mostly
>>> Oklahoma-Texas-New Mexican backroads.? I took this route from San Diego to
>>> OKC in 2007.? I thought it was much, much better than I-40 superslab.?
>>>
>>> I would be happy to hear suggestions from my New Mexican Pantera brothers
>>> about the planned route.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>> Subject: Part I: Road to Phoenix
>>>
>>> Part I: OKC to Roswell, which is approx. 510 miles.? Mostly little traveled
>>>
>>> Oklahoma-Texas-New Mexico back roads. Small amount of superslab. Overnite in
>>>
>>> Roswell.
>>>
>>> You are at Oklahoma City, OK, USA .?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are at Roswell, NM, USA .?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Total Trip distance: 509.6 miles Time: 8 hrs? 33 min?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________
>>>
>>> ? Link to View Map on Rand McNally Maps-
>>>
>>> http://maps.randmcnally.com/#s=screen
>>> <http://maps.randmcnally.com/#s=screen&lat=34.4262295&lon=-101.043678&zoom=3
>>> &> &lat=34.4262295&lon=-101.043678&zoom=3&
>>>
>>> loc1=Oklahoma%20City%2C%20Oklahoma%2C%20OK%2C%20USA&loc2=Lawton%2C%20Comanch
>>>
>>> e%2C%20OK%2C%20USA&loc3=Altus%2C%20Jackson%2C%20OK%2C%20USA&loc4=Hollis%2C%2
>>>
>>> 0Harmon%2C%20OK%2C%20USA&loc5=Memphis%2C%20Hall%2C%20TX%2C%20USA&loc6=Estell
>>>
>>> ine%2C%20Hall%2C%20TX%2C%20USA&loc7=Turkey%2C%20Hall%2C%20TX%2C%20USA&loc8=B
>>>
>>> ovina%2C%20Parmer%2C%20TX%2C%20USA&loc9=Clovis%2C%20Curry%2C%20NM%2C%20USA&l
>>>
>>> oc10=Roswell%2C%20Chaves%2C%20NM%2C%20USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rand McNally - More Roads, Better Directions Maps.randmcnally.com
>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:04:59 -0700
>>> From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Part 2
>>> To: <rspink2012 at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: panteras <detomaso at realbig.com>
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>>>
>>> The Pope has blessed Part 2 of this adventure, god of speed willing.[1]
>>>
>>> I would encourage inclusion of NM SR152 from Caballo to Silver City.
>>>
>>> Please add my name to the Part 2 list.
>>>
>>> David in Durango
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] Lloyd has my ZF and i think I want to freshen the motor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The next morning we would head on to Chandler which is 5 or 6 hours from Las Cruces which should get us there at a decent time on Wednesday.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I could ask for thoughts on the route and other places to stop and see.
>>>
>>> Please forward this email to anyone else that you think would be interested.
>>>
>>> From my notes I show the following people as having expressed some level of interest in this adventure
>>>
>>> Rob Pink
>>> John Taphorn
>>> Jim Gray
>>> Ed Nagel
>>> Steve Hawkins
>>> David Bell
>>> Bill Lewis
>>> Will Kooiman
>>> Jeff Detrich
>>> Chuck Engels
>>> Bob Radefeld
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you plans are firming up and if others are also interested.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:44:03 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: richard bosch <theemonkey at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GTS Fender Flairs?? Differences
>>> To: knottsj at galstar.com, De Tomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>
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