[DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps

[Ken Green]

OK,
 
    Having talked to a number of people about cooling systems it seems like if you ask 3 builders you'll get 5 different answers.  I kinda think some engine just run hotter than others.  I'm hoping that going to FAST XFI controlled injection, I will be able to control the ignition timing and fuel mixture very accurately and avoid some problems.  
 
    I also have read that modern radiator design has changed a lot of things, and that old radiator liked vey high flow rates which tend to add back pressure, and newer radiator don't care about flow rate, so a big single pass radiator may be optimal.  But faster flow is still always better.  Some one posted a tech article off the Stewart Components web site a while back that was vyer good.
 
Ken

From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: Bill at incendium.com 
Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com> 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps

Right you are, I stand corrected.

MICHAEL
On Jan 15, 2012 10:21 PM, "Bill Moore" <Bill at incendium.com> wrote:

> Michael, Ken did say Parallel not series. However the size of coolant
> lines, diameter and length also enter into the equation.
>
>
> Regards:
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply Ltd
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:  "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> Date:  Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:14:15
> To: Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>; detomaso at realbig.com<
> detomaso at realbig.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>
> I am not an engineer nor do I have any training in fluid dynamics, but I
> don't see how running two in a series will move any additional coolant,
> maybe in parallel.  Somebody educate me
>
> MICHAEL
> On Jan 15, 2012 10:10 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Asa,
> >
> >    I have  Meziere WP311B which is rated at 55 GPM with no load.  I
> don't
> > think they make a Cleveland specific pump, but they make a back plate PN
> > WP123B.  The original recirculation passage is covered, so you need to do
> > something different for warm up.  Maybe a PWM controller (talk to Dave
> > Londry about that).
> >
> >    The folks at Meziere told me that the pump actually pumps about 33
> GPM
> > in a car, and that's about what a really good mechanical pump does at
> 3,500
> > RPM.  So it's better than a good mechanical pump below 3,500, and pumps
> > less above 3,500, so it's not the hot setup if you want to run an open
> road
> > race at 5,000 RPM, but you can run two remote pumps in parallel and move
> > plenty of coolant.
> >
> >    They have a great reputation and should be very good for anything
> less
> > than sustained high RPM.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:29 PM
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
> >
> > Anyone on this list installed a remote Meziere electric water pump with
> > their Ford 351C?
> > http://www.meziere.com
> > If so, what parts, part numbers did you use and how did you go about it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Asa Jay
> >
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