[DeTomaso] POCA Election Results

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Sat Jan 7 08:20:31 EST 2012


Could not agree more. Lets rock & roll and move forward!

All the Best to All.

JP
Frosco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Larson <macnmac6 at msn.com>
To: wkooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net>; fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>; peter-kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>; detomaso-bounces <detomaso-bounces at realbig.com>; julian_kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; msm <msm at portata.com>; detomaso <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 1:25 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results





hrooms would be great.  I'm game.
lyer1
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:01:37 -0600
 From: wkooiman at earthlink.net
 To: fastgrandma at aol.com; peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net; detomaso-bounces at realbig.com; 
ulian_kift at hotmail.com; msm at portata.com; detomaso at realbig.com
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 
 You guys need to get together and do some mushrooms or something.  Read some 
ampfire stories.  Pot luck.  Group hug.  Seriously.
 
 One of my biggest beefs with the Viper forum is it has too many punks.  A lot 
f the Viper guys are cool, but there are way too many kids talking trash.
 
 The Pantera group is special.  I don't like this negativity, but besides that 
t's the best group of people I know.
 
 Just kidding on the 'shrooms.  How about BBQ instead?
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 >From: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>
 >Sent: Jan 5, 2012 12:01 AM
 >To: peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net, detomaso-bounces at realbig.com, 
ulian_kift at hotmail.com, msm at portata.com, detomaso at realbig.com
 >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 >
 >That was my very first reaction; I only replied here since it was brought up 
ere which definitely was not necessary from the very beginning.  Thank you for 
aying what you did!  I've tried to be positive for the 31+ years we've been in 
OCA but some don't seem to care.
 >
 >
 >Judy
 >
 >
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: peter-kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
 >To: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>; detomaso-bounces <detomaso-bounces at realbig.com>; 
ulian_kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; msm <msm at portata.com>; detomaso 
detomaso at realbig.com>
 >Sent: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 3:19 pm
 >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 >
 >
 >I like you both but ask you both...is it necessary that this conversation be 
 >public? It seems to detract from the positive things the club/group is and 
 >should be proud of.
 >Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>
 >Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
 >Date:	Wed, 4 Jan 2012 22:23:38 
 >To: <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; <msm at portata.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
 >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 >
 >
 >Gee Julian, you are really having a problem with the POCA election this year!  
> >First it was because only one person was running for each office.  That 
eally 
 >is very confusing as that has been the case most of the last years and we 
idn't 
 >hear you complaining before!  The last time there were two people running for 
> >one office has been several years ago.  
 >
 >
 >My next concern is that you actually read the inside cover first before ANY 
f 
 >the articles!! How disrespectful to the editor who spends probably as many 
ours 
 >a day writing them as you do making $$$ and he does it with just pure 
evotion 
 >to the marque.  I truly have never, but never, known anyone who takes more 
han 
 >a cursory look at page two.
 >
 >
 > As far as the error about not removing my name as president you do have to 
 >remember that he starts writing each and every Newsletter 45 days before it 
s 
 >actually printed and goes out in the mail on time every month.  (In essence 
his 
 >means he is nearly finished with the next  issue before the current one 
eaches 
 >the members.)  With a very late comer entering the race for POCA president 
ack 
 >was as prepared as possible (as usual) with the January issue as there is 
ittle 
 >time to fill in blank pages at the last minute; therefore page two was 
lready 
 >prepared before Les made his announcement.  Just be glad that he didn't leave 
n 
 >the President's Message that I'd prepared in advance if that had been the 
 >outcome.  Very little of what goes in the Newsletter can't wait until the 
ast 
 >minute. By the time the printer gets the final proof it has gone through 
everal 
 >proof checks but we are only human on occasionally missing something.
 >
 >
 >I've thought long and hard about how to respond to your VERY unnecessary 
mail 
 >and frankly, I'm very disappointed to have someone in POCA show such an 
ttitude 
 >to a mistake; you went far beyond what was necessary. My initial thoughts on 
ow 
 >to respond I put aside and decided I'm more dignified than to show the colors 
> >you obviously have which is sad for our POCA membership since you used the 
orum 
 >as a vehicle.
 >
 >
 >I suggest you try showing support for the members that work hard for our club 
> >rather than complaints; we really don't get all that many members willing to 
un 
 >for any office and certainly haven't seen you volunteering, even at chapter 
 >level. 
 >
 >
 >Judy
 >
 >
 >PS - Think maybe I'll have a run for R/T President since I'll have some extra 
> >time now!
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
 >To: fastgrandma <fastgrandma at aol.com>; msm <msm at portata.com>; De Tomaso List 
 ><detomaso at realbig.com>
 >Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 3:07 pm
 >Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 >
 >
 >Well I got home and my POCA Newsletter was waiting for me.... I open it to 
ind 
 >contrary to the list e-mail, on the inside yellow cover Judy DeRyke listed as 
> >President, so I'd say the Newsletter editor has some explaining to do. 
 >Somebody's been watching too much Florida voting tactics me thinks... if you 
 >call it publicly it they must be the winner right!
 >
 >I for one am glad the outgoing President announced the new President with 
lear 
 >communication and not rely on the newsletter where in this instance there 
 >appears to be some conflict of interest.
 >
 >Julian
 >
 >
 >
 >> To: msm at portata.com; detomaso at realbig.com
 >> From: fastgrandma at aol.com
 >> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 20:55:08 -0500
 >> CC: tipo874a at msn.com
 >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 >> 
 >> Gee Mark, you are a real spoilsport; it would've been more fun keeping all 
he 
 >members on the edge of their seats waiting for their Newsletters!  :)
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Judy
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: msm <msm at portata.com>
 >> To: Detomaso (detomaso at realbig.com) <detomaso at realbig.com>
 >> Cc: Les Gray (tipo874a at msn.com) <tipo874a at msn.com>
 >> Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 12:13 pm
 >> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Election Results
 >> 
 >> 
 >> The POCA election results are complete.  A big thank you to Chuck Engles 
ho 
 >> collected and tabulated the ballots for us again this year.
 >> 
 >> It is my pleasure to announce that Les Gray is the new POCA President 
 >effective 
 >> immediately.  Les has many years of experience in POCA and the Pantera 
 >> community.  He has held POCA positions in the past including being POCA 
 >> President, so he will be right at home.
 >> 
 >> Also returning to the POCA Board are Judy McCartney as our dedicated and 
 >> tireless Membership Director, Jim Gray as our steadfast Secretary, and Jack 
> >> DeRyke as our prolific Newsletter Editor.  The full list of the Board of 
 >> Directors in on http://www.poca.com/index.php/cl/directors
 >> 
 >> Thank you Jack, Jim, Judy, and Les for all you have done and will be doing 
n 
 >> the coming year.
 >> 
 >> I will now move on to the role of Past President relieving John Taphorn who 
> >will 
 >> continue to be the Fun Rally co-chair.
 >> 
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