[DeTomaso] girling calipers - rebuild

[Will Kooiman]

$1150?

Porterfield R4S run about $180 for the front, and about $80 for the rear.  I
don't know the exact price.  I have their price list, but I don't see
DeTomaso.  Most of their R4S pads are ~ 180 / 80.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Havlik
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:43 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] girling calipers - rebuild

SEL:



The original GT5/GT5-S/Gr4/Gr3 factory brake pads are Lucas Girling 01014B
and 1014D. If you want factory pads, Larry Stock at Pantera Parts Connection
used to carry them. The last time I checked, which was about five years ago,
the cost for the front and rear pads was, altogether, $1150 USD, and the
parking brake was $92.40. You can reach Larry at (775) 856-7011.

If you are looking to interchange the pads to another manufacturer then,
according to Roland Jaeckel, for GT3, GT4, GT5, and GT5-S Panteras, the
front pads cross reference to an Aston Martin DB5, the rear pads to a Jaguar
XJ6, and the parking brake to a Rolls Royce Silvershadow 2. This advice is
consistent with most other experts I have spoken to about this.

 

However, why would you want factory pads with their outdated compounds when
you can buy new technology pads that perform much better - and for a lot
less money?

 

For aftermarket pads, some people have recommended EBC as a company to go to
for GT5/GT5-S/Gr4/Gr3 pads. When I looked into this the last time, their web
site listed them as being out of stock. Perhaps you will have better luck.
Be careful, however, because others have advised that the diagrams of the
pads on the EBC web site that are supposedly for the GT5/GT5-S do not, in
fact, match the factory backing plates:

 

http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/default.asp

 

Regardless, at $735 USD - for the front 4 pads only! - plus shipping from
the UK, plus duties, plus brokerage fees, plus exchange fees, the EBC pads
are even more expensive than the factory pads.

 

The other (and best, in my view) alternative is Porterfield:

 

Porterfield Enterprises 1767 Placentia Ave Costa Mesa,  CA   92627    

800-537-6842     949-548-4470

 

_www.porterfieldbrakes.com_ (http://www.porterfieldbrakes.com)

  

Call and ask for a lady named Wendy. She has GT5/GT5-S/Gr4/Gr3 pads in two
standard thicknesses, .670" and .980" (including the backing plate), but can
make them to any specification on request. I had the exact thickness of the
factory original pads and had her make mine accordingly. When they arrived,
they did not fit so I had to have the pads shaved down slightly (easy and
cheap to do).

 

Front:                        FRP 105                        $139.95
for all 4 pads

Rear:                        GD 557                        $79.95
for all 4 pads

 

Incidentally, she confirmed they can bond new pads onto your existing
backing plates if you prefer, but that it takes 6 or 7 weeks to turn them
around. Therefore, they prefer to sell the new pads which ship right away.

 

So, in summary, I ordered a new set of Porterfield pads in their R4S
compound for my GT5 and, despite the pads being a different shape than my
factory originals (the backing plates were the same) and my having given
Porterfield the incorrect pad thickness specification for my car, after I
ground them down they fit perfectly and have been working fine ever since.
Total cost: $219.90 plus shipping.

 

Now, if someone could find a cheap source for the parking brake pads, we'd
be all set!

 

- Peter

 


Message: 16
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:26:14 -0800 (PST)
From: SEL <edlebby at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] girling calipers - rebuild
To: "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
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thanks to all for the tips and tricks - got them out - did split the caliper
- ended up using fingers to plug holes and then air pressure 
?
will now look to get rebuild kits
?
what is the currently recommended brake pad to put on the stock caliper for
maximum performance (with part number, if possible) - thanks, stephen

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