[DeTomaso] MME, MY EXPERIENCE, YES THEY BUILD GRENADES!

[Pantdino]

Are they near you at all geographically?
What are the limits of the Small Claims Court or equivalent in your state?

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: clewis <clewis at dmn.net>
To: detomaso <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 1:38 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] MME, MY EXPERIENCE, YES THEY BUILD GRENADES!


Dear Fellow Pantera Owners -
MME built my motor and it did not even make it to 1000 street driven 
iles before it started to break parts. 
Yes MME is the same builder who built my motor with the following defects. 
A) Wrong spring pressure, selected an 800lbs of pressure at full open spring 
hen the cam specs called for 500lb max.

) Used a retainer that did not match the springs, thereby allowing the 
pring pack the ability to move around too freely. 
C) Overtorqued the adjusters on the rocker arms, a known mode of failure, 
ontributing to the failure of 5 Jesel Pro Series Shaft rocker arms and 
ompromising the integrity of the entire set of rocker arms.  
Jesel performed an exhaustive examination of the failed parts and provided a 
etailed, 18 page 
eport detailing the reasons and mode of failure.  They all were clearly due to 
ngine builder 
rrors.

) Pushrods most likely the incorrect length, based on the findings by Jesel 
howing that the position of the adjusters was too far out of the body of 
he rocker arm. 
E) Had custom valve covers produced with no breather or filler. I mean 
eally, how are you supposed to get oil into the engine? Osmosis? 
eleportation? 
They then had the nerve to send me a bill for an additional $300-$400 to fix 
heir mistake.  I 
efused to pay and let them keep the valve covers even though I had paid for the 
alve covers, 
ustom engraving and custom powder coating to that point.  My loss on this item 
lone was around 
800.
F) Destroyed the balance of a set of March billet pulleys by hand 
ountersinking the bolt holes, not drilling the out on a press and using 
roper machining techniques that would result in the part retaining it's 
alance.

eyond the sloppiness exhibited by the defects listed above, MME charged me for 
hone calls to 
antera vendors when I asked them to make sure the parts vendors would be 
upplying(headers from 
at Mical and clutch, flywheel and pressure plate from Dennis Quella)would all 
it together and 
ork with my build. Did MME really need to pad their profit on this build by 
nother $150 or so 
ollars?
It is important to note that I paid them over $16,000 directly and also provided 
ver $4,000 worth 
f parts (The parts I provided included: CHI Aluminum Cleveland Heads and 
atching intake. Aviaid 
antera specific oil pan, small diameter MSD dsitributor, MSD Ignition box, 
arch 
illett Aluminum pulley set.)for the build. 
This is the same amount essentially they would charge for the same motor if they 
ad provided those 
arts. (Check their website and see for yourself). 
My motor initial cost therefore was in the neighbourhood of $21,000. So imagine 
y surprise when 
 first had problems with them regarding the defective custom valve covers and 
ME told me they 
ould not spend time on the phone to resolve my issues because they were LOSING 
ONEY ON ME!!??? 
My car has been off the road since 2008 while I saved money and found a builder 
 can trust. It is 
oing to cost another $6,000 to $8,000 to rebuild the motor correctly. 
When confronted with these facts MME's response was to: 
A) Deny any responsibility 
) Try to claim I was a customer who had not paid ( A lie) 
To date they have not done anything to make good or back up the product they 
old me. 
TELL EVERY PANTERA OWNER YOU KNOW NOT TO DO BUSINESS WITH MME! TELL THEM THEY 
HOULD RUN AS FAST AS 
HEY CAN THE OTHER WAY AND NOT LET MARK MCKEOWN GET ONE MORE DOLLAR FROM THE 
ANTERA COMMUNITY. 
If anybody you know is considering using MME, please have them call me 
irectly at: 646-599-7871 
Best Regards, Chris Lewis 
wner, 5318 
PS - If you do buy an engine from MME make sure you have another $8000 sitting 
round doing 
othing, you will need it very soon!
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