[DeTomaso] coolant bypass

Thu Feb 2 15:15:18 EST 2012

I guess hat is why I could not figure out why it wasn't understood. Yes
parallel:

http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/bypas/byp3.jpg
http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/bypas/byp4.jpg

Gary

> I'm assuming that they are in parallel - double the flow - and not in
> series, which would restrict
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Curt Hall
> Sent: jueves, 02 de febrero de 2012 21:05
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: Justin Greisberg; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] coolant bypass
>
> Michael...
>  
> That was going to be my next Question/Comment?
>  
> If the Tsat has small holes to restrict the flow, how is two Tsat's going
> to
> make better flow? Same water flow more stuff in the way? 2 Tsat's in the
> way
> instead of one?
>
> --- On Thu, 2/2/12, michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] coolant bypass
> To: "Curt Hall" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: gow2 at rc-tech.net, "Justin Greisberg" <justingreisberg at hotmail.com>,
> detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 11:52 AM
>
>
> Hot water needs to remain in the radiator for a certain time to be cooled,
> thus the restriction aspect of a thermostat or a Moroso Flow Ring,
> if the water just wet through as fast as it could, it wouldn't be cooled
> enough to make any real significant difference.
>
>
> Michael Shortt
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> If that is the case? Why not just remove the thermostat all together and
> remove the brass ring under it?
>
> --- On Thu, 2/2/12, gow2 at rc-tech.net <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] coolant bypass
> To: "Curt Hall" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: gow2 at rc-tech.net, "Dave Londry" <davel at emspace.com>, "Justin
> Greisberg"
> <justingreisberg at hotmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 11:11 AM
>
>
> It is just the size of the passage through the thermostat. Add 2 and you
> can get 2x as much water through. Look at a thermostat and see how small
> the hole is the water passes trough. With long narrow tubes in a Pantera
> anything to keep the flow going.
>
>
>
>> Dumb question...if the thermostat restricts flow, how does adding a
>> second
>> thermostat help the flow?
>>
>> --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] coolant bypass
>> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
>> Cc: "Justin Greisberg" <justingreisberg at hotmail.com>,
>> detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 9:36 AM
>>
>>
>> I like the 2 thermostats a lot Gary.
>> The thermostat is the real flow restrictor in the system, even when it's
>> open
>> Getting rid of it or doubling it up makes good sense.
>> dave
>>
>> On 01/02/2012 6:42 PM, gow2 at rc-tech.net wrote:
>>> I think I would also add,
>>>
>>> -Allows more water to circulate during warm up
>>> -I wanted to try 2 thermostats to increase flow
>>> -Were Pantera guys, it's what we do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Justin,
>>>>
>>>> If you're happy with your car, then stick with it!
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Since the tank is on the high pressure side of the water pump, I was
>>>> running a 24lb cap on it and it would still puke coolant when I backed
>>>> off
>>>> the throttle at 7200rpm.
>>>> It would run kinda' OK in 100F+ temperatures, even with a nice new
>>>> Pantera
>>>> Performance aluminum radiator. Kinda' OK wasn't acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> After changing the system to a remote thermostat and moving the tank
>>>> to
>>>> the low pressure side, using the Mike Trusty/John Taphorn modification
>>>> whatever you want to call it, I have none of those problems.
>>>>
>>>> Note that these changes make a Pantera cooling system act just like
>>>> any
>>>> modern car's cooling system.
>>>>
>>>> Works for me. If what you have works for you, then I'd recommend
>>>> leaving
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Kirby
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Justin Greisberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> why are we doing this?  why don't we just use a cleveland thermostat
>>>>> on
>>>>> a cleveland block?  i do, and the car seems to run fine and cool on
>>>>> the
>>>>> street.  justin
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