[DeTomaso] Trans cooler...at BBORR

[Bill Moore]

Might be the best line I've seen on this forum, too funny.............

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trans cooler...at BBORR

So, where will Mike & Lori be Registered at?   Hall or Wilkinson 8-)

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:18 PM, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:

> Yes, If the dates line up with he Fun Rally.  Next year, Mike Drew and 
> Loti are getting married at the Rally.  I suspect it will be well 
> attended.  The Houston gang would welcome stopping along the way for 
> additional fun.  This year while in route to Phoenix, we stopped in Ft 
> Stockton for dinner and crossed paths with Jack Houpe, who was there 
> for the BBORR. Unfortunately, it was scheduled for the same weekend.
> 
> JT
> 
> On 8/9/2012 9:52 AM, michael frazier wrote:
>> I think Steve Hawkins kept track of the trans temps that year.  I don't
think we saw anything alarming in any of the cars.
>> All ran at 100+ speeds at times that year, some a lot faster.  The 
>> last 2 races I ran in a Pantera I had stick on temp indicators I got 
>> from one of our aerospace friends and again saw nothing 
>> alarming...170 to 180ish temps I think.  I was running the latest Amsoil
product and know that made a difference.  I had a 140 tech speed those years
and accidentally got up to 150 a couple of times too.  FWIW.
>> 
>> I've been thinking of putting the old Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa gang 
>> together again.  I'm getting my car back together and every time I'm 
>> in Ft. Stockton I'm still asked about when the Panteras are coming 
>> back.  I had a chance to drive a couple of the ORR courses around the 
>> country lately just coincidentally with work projects.  I was in the 
>> missile fields up north and took time to drive the SandHills course 
>> and later took off to drive the Nevada course while in Nellis area. 
>> (Never buy a used car from Avis)  They're all fun, but it confirmed what
everyone tells me and that is the Big Bend ORR is the best course of them
all.  Everything is convenient and there is plenty of hotel space.  The
locals are just as excited and supportive as they've ever been.  You should
try to do this at least once before it's gone. When I see how the oil & gas
industry is moving back into the Texas oil patches with a vengeance I wonder
if they'll agree to close a major highway in the area...and this is an
active area.
>> 
>> Just thinking out loud here.  Anyone of the old guys and anyone new up
for a Big Bend Pantera invasion?
>> 
>> Michael Frazier
>> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: adin at frontier.net
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 07:20:15 -0600
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Trans cooler
>>> 
>>> (Flame suit on) (this might be considered an old man's rant)
>>> 
>>> Back in 2005, when TPR had ten (10!) Panteras running the BBORR, someone
had a new IR temp gun.(Michael Frazier might remember who it was?) It was
decided to monitor the ZF temps at the end of the event. I never heard what
the results were, I know my car was about 175 degrees (95 cruise speed).
This is a LOT different than competing at LeMans.
>>> 
>>> (My Opinion) If one installs a cooler without monitoring temps first, it
can only be considered a "racer-boy" modification. I have never done that .
. . .hahahahahaha.
>>> 
>>> If I could be convinced the Luminova units were fool-proof (maybe
perfect is a better word) then I would run those - they offer big advantages
over air-oil coolers.
>>> 
>>> When I had the ZF regeared, I had Lloyd install a temp sender. I should
have data soon.
>>> 
>>> I can't remember which years which cars had trans failures at LeMans
(Mike Drew, do you remember?) but I would guess if a ZF would ever overheat,
it would have been at LeMans.
>>> 
>>> David in Durango
>>> 
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