[DeTomaso] Trans cooler...at BBORR

Brian mazdastuff at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 10 22:18:53 EDT 2012


So, where will Mike & Lori be Registered at?   Hall or Wilkinson 8-)

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:18 PM, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:

> Yes, If the dates line up with he Fun Rally.  Next year, Mike Drew and 
> Loti are getting married at the Rally.  I suspect it will be well 
> attended.  The Houston gang would welcome stopping along the way for 
> additional fun.  This year while in route to Phoenix, we stopped in Ft 
> Stockton for dinner and crossed paths with Jack Houpe, who was there for 
> the BBORR. Unfortunately, it was scheduled for the same weekend.
> 
> JT
> 
> On 8/9/2012 9:52 AM, michael frazier wrote:
>> I think Steve Hawkins kept track of the trans temps that year.  I don't think we saw anything alarming in any of the cars.
>> All ran at 100+ speeds at times that year, some a lot faster.  The last 2 races I ran in a Pantera I had stick on temp indicators
>> I got from one of our aerospace friends and again saw nothing alarming...170 to 180ish temps I think.  I was running the
>> latest Amsoil product and know that made a difference.  I had a 140 tech speed those years and accidentally got up to 150
>> a couple of times too.  FWIW.
>> 
>> I've been thinking of putting the old Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa gang together again.  I'm getting my car back together and
>> every time I'm in Ft. Stockton I'm still asked about when the Panteras are coming back.  I had a chance to drive a couple of
>> the ORR courses around the country lately just coincidentally with work projects.  I was in the missile fields up north and took time
>> to drive the SandHills course and later took off to drive the Nevada course while in Nellis area. (Never buy a used car from Avis)
>>  They're all fun, but it confirmed what everyone tells me and that is the Big Bend ORR is the best course of them all.  Everything
>> is convenient and there is plenty of hotel space.  The locals are just as excited and supportive as they've ever been.  You should
>> try to do this at least once before it's gone. When I see how the oil & gas industry is moving back into the Texas oil patches with
>> a vengeance I wonder if they'll agree to close a major highway in the area...and this is an active area.
>> 
>> Just thinking out loud here.  Anyone of the old guys and anyone new up for a Big Bend Pantera invasion?
>> 
>> Michael Frazier
>> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: adin at frontier.net
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 07:20:15 -0600
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Trans cooler
>>> 
>>> (Flame suit on) (this might be considered an old man's rant)
>>> 
>>> Back in 2005, when TPR had ten (10!) Panteras running the BBORR, someone had a new IR temp gun.(Michael Frazier might remember who it was?) It was decided to monitor the ZF temps at the end of the event. I never heard what the results were, I know my car was about 175 degrees (95 cruise speed). This is a LOT different than competing at LeMans.
>>> 
>>> (My Opinion) If one installs a cooler without monitoring temps first, it can only be considered a "racer-boy" modification. I have never done that . . . .hahahahahaha.
>>> 
>>> If I could be convinced the Luminova units were fool-proof (maybe perfect is a better word) then I would run those - they offer big advantages over air-oil coolers.
>>> 
>>> When I had the ZF regeared, I had Lloyd install a temp sender. I should have data soon.
>>> 
>>> I can't remember which years which cars had trans failures at LeMans (Mike Drew, do you remember?) but I would guess if a ZF would ever overheat, it would have been at LeMans.
>>> 
>>> David in Durango
>>> 
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