[DeTomaso] Coil Packs

gow2 at rc-tech.net gow2 at rc-tech.net
Tue Aug 7 14:19:53 EDT 2012


I am just figuring on having one at a time hooked up.

> Thanks for sharing.  This almost gets down to my goal of $100 per channel
> (w/o sensor).  It would be ideal to have a channel for each cylinder.
>  
> David
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
> To: David D Fisher <fisher95020 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net>; Pantera mailing list
> <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coil Packs
>
> I've been using a Tech Edge wbo2 for many years, and it works great.
>
> I've connected it to the EFI for logging, as well as a display on the
> dash.
>
> http://wbo2.com/
>
> I'm using a cheap Bosch sensor for a VW.
>
> Thomas
>
> 7 aug 2012 kl. 17:56 skrev David D Fisher <fisher95020 at yahoo.com>:
>
>>
>>   
>> Gary,
>> 
>> Looks like you are well ahead of me on this one.   I was feeling too
>> cheap for the LM-1 and found a kit for a O2 sensor board from a German
>> electronics newsletter.  I am guessing the author works at Bosch or one
>> of the car companies.  In reality,  I tend to dream up many more
>> projects than I actually get to, so I will probably just buy a data
>> logger for the tuning. 
>> 
>> I've always felt that carbs were intimidating to folks mostly because
>> all the work is being done open loop.   Occasionally you find a seasoned
>> expert who had a few closed loop tricks, like reading plugs and knowing
>> what changing emulsion tubes will feel like in the seat of the pants,
>> but I expect many carb issues could be solved by putting on a 02 sensor
>> and going closed loop.
>> 
>> Good luck with the tuning and please keep us posted. 
>> 
>> Love the pictures!
>> 
>> David
>> 
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>> To: David D Fisher <fisher95020 at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 5:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coil Packs
>>
>> Dave, I am a big fan of the O2. I have worked with the O2 on a couple
>> engines. I have an Innovative LM-1 which I have tuned a number of
>> engines
>> including my tractor engine.
>>
>> With the MGB I moved to an in dash gauge. It did not really fit the
>> gauge
>> cluster so I hid it behind a radio delete plate with a vacuum gauge:
>>
>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/mg2/cleanup/gp2.jpg
>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/mg2/cleanup/gp3.jpg
>>
>> I am thinking of doing something similar in the Pantera.
>>
>> With the exhaust system I built for the Pantera I have individual
>> runners
>> which extend all the way to the back of the car so I put in bungs on
>> each
>> runner; which is good because each Weber is divided by left side and
>> right
>> side. With 4 Weber's you basically have 8 carbs.
>>
>> If you look toward the bottom of the photo you can see the ungs on the
>> right side and one has an Oxygen sensor plugged in:
>>
>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/cp.jpg
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I am planning to make an O2 sensor that I can move from car to car to
>>> set
>>> up carbs and log data under road conditions.   I expect that might be
>>> fairly helpful for getting a multi carb setup optimized.    I have a 4
>>> carb Alfa and a 3 carb Jag.
>>> 
>>> However, at the rate I am moving,  it will probably not happen till
>>> next
>>> year.  In the mean time,  I'll be watching to see what you learn and
>>> see
>>> if I get more optomistic or less on the Webers :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>   From: "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>>> To: David D Fisher <fisher95020 at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coil Packs
>>>
>>> Thanks Dave, I am new to Webers. I know some guys around here have a
>>> lot
>>> more experience then I. I can tell you off the bat what I really like
>>> is
>>> the ease at which you can change the jets and emulsion tubes.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>> Gary,
>>>> 
>>>> I just found your website and am watching with great interest.    I'd
>>>> love
>>>> to hear your experience with the Webers (I think that is what i see in
>>>> the
>>>> pic) as your motor work progresses.
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>   From: "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 6:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Coil Packs
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I would pass on some progress. Got the distributor cut
>>>> down
>>>> Saturday as well as the timing gear and mounting plates for the coil
>>>> and
>>>> cpu. Got if fired up last night on the engine stand.
>>>>
>>>> Plug wires are just make shift till I get it in the car and see what I
>>>> need. I need to get the motor cleaned up. It is still dusty from when
>>>> I
>>>> did all the body work.
>>>>
>>>> Setting timing is a no brainer. Feels like cheating.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/cc.jpg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/cpu.jpg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/cp.jpg
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