[DeTomaso] Carb question
mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
Sun Aug 5 15:47:50 EDT 2012
Ok, just dont let that mechanic ruin you
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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:40:51
To: <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>; <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Subject: RE: SV: [DeTomaso] Carb question
I was kinda afraid if I asked, I'd get a complicated answer! Since I am no mechanic, I'll be turning the project over to someone who knows what to do...
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Thanks,
Chris
> From: mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net; chrisvkimball at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: SV: [DeTomaso] Carb question
> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:09:47 +0200
>
> OK, I'm late to this party, but here goes: Buy my book :-) Sorry, couldn't refuse...
>
> And now to the useful part of this mail:
> The problem you have seem to indicate a very weak/incorrect idle situation. Engines with 200+ HP should not bog down because of A/C use. You should either feel a very slight decrease in rpm or none at all. The solenoid solution is compensating for the problem instead of correcting it, I suggest to not spend time on that. Solenoids were introduced back when idle for environmental reasons had to be set too lean, for non-pollution controlled engines they're not needed.
>
> Back to your engine:
> 1. Maybe I've missed it, is your 750 vacuum or double pumper? If it's the latter, you'll need a good 4 corner idle, harder to get to, but a lot better
> 2. What's your vacuum at idle? And is it steady (*)? If you don't have a vacuum gauge, buy one. Must be connected to manifold vacuum, not ported vacuum
> 3. After idling a while, how do your plugs look? Are all 8 the same? If not, probably a vacuum leak near the lean looking plugs. If yes, do they look lean or rich?
>
> If you answer 1-3, I'll try and help diagnose per mail? Up to you... :-)
>
> (My engine is a 408 stroker with a wild cam, only 8inHg at vacuum. But a nice 4 corner idle @ 1000 rpm. When A/C is in use, there's no decrease in rpm that I can feel. So it can be done, if your engine is working properly and adjusted correctly)
>
> (*):
> From my book:
> Diagnosing/troubleshooting
> As mentioned, a lot of different faults can be found with a vacuum gauge, because the behavior of the needle is different from one fault to another. Here are the seven most common scenarios (engine idling and warm):
>
> 1. Steady needle, at 15-22 inHg: Engine in good condition. (An engine with long-duration camshaft will have a lower vacuum and a less steady needle, maybe 10-15 inHg with a few “jerks”. That’s still an engine in good condition)
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> 2. Steady needle, lower than normal: Ignition timing too late or vacuum leak
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> 3. Steady needle like in 1. but occasionally fluctuates at idle: Ignition miss or sticking valve
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> 4. Steady needle like in 1. but drops regularly: Valves need adjustment or burnt valve
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> 5. Floating needle, maybe in the range of 10-20 inHg: Carb out of adjustment or vacuum leakage
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> 6. Shaking needle, becomes worse as rpm increases: Ignition miss, blown head gasket
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> 7. Shaking needle, becomes steady as rpm increases: Worn valve guides
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Mikael
> Tuning Made Easy, available at amazon.com
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: shawkins777 at comcast.net [mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net]
> Sendt: 5. august 2012 11:48
> Til: Christopher Kimball
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Carb question
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> There are solenoids available that will raise the rpm when the compressor turns on.
>
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>
> Steve
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:55:37 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Carb question
>
> I have a 408 stroker with a Holley 750. When I try to set the idle, I seem to have only two choices. 1) set the idle too fast (1800 rpms) so that when I turn on the air conditioner, the car won't die (it goes to about 1100 rpms with the a/c on), or 2) set the idle for 1100 without the a/c, but when I turn on the a/c it drops down to about 500 rpms and is at risk of dying when I let out the clutch.
>
> I've tried adjusting the idle screw on the carb in minuscule increments, but no luck getting better results.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
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