[DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil --- typo corrected

Tue Apr 24 22:56:40 EDT 2012

Oil is by volume.
I don't think you can generalize though - that would make no sense for 
gases for instance.
dave

On 24/04/2012 3:57 PM, Ken Green wrote:
> Is ppm a measure by volume?  We commonly describe the % as by weight 
> in patents.  It's generally not be the same thing?
> Ken
>
> *From:* Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
> *To:* Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:03 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil --- typo corrected
>
> Exactly.
> ====================
> Looks like there's 59 of them (or at least a half-dozen)
>
>   * Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 (API CJ-4)
>     <http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#product1>
>   * Delo 400 Multigrade SAE 15W-40 (API CI-4 PLUS)
>     <http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#product2>
>   * Delo 400 SAE 10W, 20, 30, 40, 50
>     <http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#product3>
>   * Delo 400 LE SAE 10W-30 <http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#product4>
>   * Delo 400 Synthetic SAE 0W-30
>     <http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#product5>
>   * Delo 400 LE Synthetic SAE 5W-40 (API CJ-4)
>     <http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#product6>
>
> I didn't find the analysis though.
> Charles is far from a Costco, but who knows who might sell it.
> dave
>
> On 24/04/2012 1:52 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>> Dave,
>>     Several people have recommended Delo 400 to me.  I looked up the 
>> specs and they are 0.13% zink.  Is that about 1300 ppm?
>>     Costo is selling the Delo 400 for $31 for 3 gallons right now.
>> Ken
>>
>> *From:* Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> <mailto:davel at emspace.com>
>> *To:* detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:34 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Translation of motor oil --- typo corrected
>>
>> For a non-roller cam
>> ..You want>900 ppm
>> ..Optimum is about 1200 ppm which gives you some room for depletion
>> (which happens during normal running)
>> ..Folklore says>1800 ppm gets you into some embrittlement issues.
>>
>> Going silent now.
>> dave
>>
>>
>> On 24/04/2012 12:27 PM, Dave Londry wrote:
>> > I don't see anyone speaking up Charles. (no wonder, it's pretty well
>> > impossible to answer now)
>> > For a non-roller cam
>> > ..You want>9ppm
>> > ..Optimum is about 12 ppm which gives you some room for depletion
>> > (which happens during normal running)
>> > ..Folklore says>18ppm gets you into some embrittlement issues.
>> > (I choose to trust this one, no particular reason though)
>> >
>> > As to what your 10W40 has in it??
>> > 2 years ago it would have had 1200 ppm. Now ?
>> >
>> > As far as reading the designation - wtf knows what this means and this
>> > is the API, who make up them up.
>> > http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/API.html
>> > SL     Current     For 2004 and older automotive engines.
>> > SJ     Current     For 2001 and older automotive engines.
>> >
>> > *CF*     *Current*     Introduced in 1994. For off-road, indirect 
>> injected and
>> > other diesel engines including those using fuel with over 0.5% weight
>> > sulfur. Can be used in place of CD oils.
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's a blurb from Mobil pitching 0W40 and 10W40 Hi-Mileage
>> > 
>> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/ZDDP_Levels_Classic_Cars.aspx
>> >
>> > What would I do?
>> > Add 600 ppm and pray a bunch.
>> > dave
>> >
>> >
>> > On 24/04/2012 11:41 AM, CharlesMcCall wrote:
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Can someone who knows oil or where to look confirm that API 
>> SL/SJ/CF oil
>> >> needs zddp additive?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have additive and just bought some Mobil 10W40. (What happens if 
>> you add
>> >> too much zddp anyway? Is that a bad thing?)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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