[DeTomaso] Dipstick photos and measurements

Mon Apr 16 07:25:52 EDT 2012

Or my Ranchero pulling a loaded car trailer ( and how the car is placed on the trailer ) --- and it too has air shocks ------- Such a Deal ! !

Bud #3400

--- On Sun, 4/15/12, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:

From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Subject: Re: [possion] Dipstick photos and measurements
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Sunday, April 15, 2012, 10:54 PM

Oh, and one more thing.....

... on the Mach I, would that be the tilt of the engine with no air in 
the rear air shocks, or with 100 psi in the rear air shocks?  
(difference of about 3 inches at the rear bumper)

:)
Asa Jay
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On 4/15/2012 8:42 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
> Ken,
>
> You know that was like throwing a logarithmic function into an otherwise
> simple quadratic equation... don't you?  :|
>
> DANG!
> Sooooooo..... now we need to throw in the tilt of the engine.  Yes, Ken,
> I think you may have a point.  In my case... now that you've brought it
> up, I may have to check the level of the engine in the Mach I, then
> check the level of the engine in the Pantera.
>
> Then I'll have to fabricate a fixture to tilt the test bed engine in the
> garage to the proper tilt (GW?), and rig up an oil pan with a piece of
> plexiglass in order to -really- find out the truth.
>
> Unless of course... somebody else already has all the information.
> gads!
> Asa Jay
> :)
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> &   Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
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> On 4/15/2012 8:16 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>> Asa,
>>
>> In all other Fords with a 351c, does the engine sit nose high?  If the dip stick is in the front, they may have compensated for the tilt of the engine???  Just wondering.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> From: Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dipstick photos and measurements
>>
>> I think you should get a stock tube and dipstick for another Ford
>> product that had the 351C, like a Torino, Mustang, LTD, etc.  And do a
>> comparison.
>>
>> That's what Bud Howard was doing (if I understand it correctly) and what
>> I was planning to do here as well.  (once I get the materials together).
>>
>> Although I will agree the level is probably supposed to be a bit lower
>> than  a half inch.  Probably more like what you have shown in your
>> photos but your photos almost look too shallow.
>>
>> I'm thinking back to when I put the windage tray and crank scraper on my
>> last rebuild.  It extended a little way down and I would think the oil
>> level shouldn't be up against it, but I could be wrong.
>>
>> Oh... and do we know for certain your tube is proper length?
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &    Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
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>> On 4/14/2012 5:53 PM, MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I wanted to generate both heat and light on this topic.  It seemed to me
>>> that the oil level would be a fair bit more than just 1/2 inch below the
>>> crankshaft throws.  So I set up my spare block, which has a stock crank
>>> installed, and my spare dipstick tube, and a tape measure.  I set the forward
>>> journal to its lowest position, then inserted both an unmodified 1972 (too-long)
>>> dipstick, and a proper 38-inch dipstick, and set up my camera on a tripod
>>> to take good photos.
>>>
>>> I chose to focus on the tape measure, which had the dipstick markings ever
>>> so slightly out of focus.  To eliminate any confusion, I marked the
>>> dipsticks with masking tape.  The bottom of the upper tape line corresponds with
>>> the "Safe" marking, and the top of the lower tape line is positioned on the
>>> "Add" line.
>>>
>>> The fluid levels are substantially less than some would have you believe.
>>> This would help prevent the crank throws from splashing in the oil, while
>>> still providing plenty of oil to ensure the pickup doesn't get starved.
>>>
>>> Photos here:
>>>
>>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=36086
>>>
>>> Does anybody need any other measurements/photos?  I'm about to pull the
>>> crank and ship it to a Pantera owner in France, so speak now or forever hold
>>> your peace. :>)
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Mike
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