[DeTomaso] Cleveland Specific Thermostat

Jim Gray grayjim at att.net
Thu Sep 29 16:13:11 EDT 2011


Mike,

Why do some of our vendors sell the aluminum plate that has only a 1/8" hole 
along with a Windsor thermostat to help our cooling?  Is that very small home 
enough?  I see in the BT Database that the hole is necessary for air to escape 
the engine not necessarily aid water flow.

Jim "cooling challenged" Gray



----- Original Message ----
From: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: SOBill at aol.com; chance.dorsey at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Thu, September 29, 2011 8:17:26 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Specific Thermostat


In a message dated 9/28/11 18 55 2, SOBill at aol.com writes:


> A way to eliminate this situation, IMHO, is to totally  block the bypass
> path and use a Windsor style thermostat.
> 

True..but doing so defeats the warm-up circuit in the engine, and forces 
all the water to pass through the radiator.  That sounds like a good deal, 
but the engine was originally designed to have a certain amount circulating 
through it at all times.

If you look at any other Ford engine family (289/302, 390/427/428, 
429/460), you'll see that each of them has an external bypass hose which takes 
water 

from the area of the intake manifold/thermostat and sends it to the water 
pump.  In ALL of those motors, a certain percentage (let's guesstimate 
around 22%, same as the 351C) of the coolant always bypasses the radiator.  The 
351C is the only engine family that manages this internally.

It's been explained to me by people who are far smarter than I am on 
engines (which is most people) that this bypass stuff is a good thing.  Not 
doing 

so can create hot spots as the engine heats up unevenly with no water 
circulation through it.  Realize that if you block the bypass, when the 
thermostat is closed there is no water flow at all--the water pump is cavitating 
the 

whole time, and the water in the engine is just sitting there, stationary, 
as the engine heats up.  It doesn't heat evenly, so the water is 
superheated in places by the time the thermostat opens.  When it does, WHAM, 
ice-cold 

water is then dumped into part of the engine as the hot water exits.

The bypass setup does away with all of this.  The Ford engineers were some 
pretty smart cookies, and I have been convinced that their thinking in 
terms of the cooling setup needs to be respected.

Cheers!

Mike
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