[DeTomaso] The Car Show

Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net
Fri Sep 16 15:25:11 EDT 2011


Thanks a lot.  Now I have a mental image of Bill Lewis watching TV staring
at Bill O'Reilly.  I need to go wash my eyeballs.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:20 PM
To: Bill Lewis
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Car Show

Bill Lewis staring at Bill O'Reilly?  TMI

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> It's sorta like - how did Greta get on Fox?, and how does she stay on?  I
> even stare at Bill O'Reilly more than her!  Sheeesh!   ---Bill
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:12:07 -0400
> > From: rob at dumoulins.net
> > To: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Car Show
> >
> > Over a year ago, Adam Carolla was supposed to shoot a pilot for Top Gear
> > America. After that was done, you never heard about Top Gear America
> again
> > until Tanner and his sidekicks actually made a go at it.  I suspect Adam
> was
> > so bad that he did not get the job and somebody thought the format of
the
> > Car Show would catch on.  I still record it but get through it in about
> 15
> > minutes.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net
> >wrote:
> >
> > > I know it's TV, and they're trying to shock to get ratings, but I
don't
> > > like
> > > Adam Carolla's style (very Gilbert Gottfried-esque)
> > >
> > > He said, "...hate the people that love the car."  And then he
> generalizes
> > > by
> > > implying that if you love Panteras you turn it into a low-rider with
> > > mirrors
> > > and everything chrome.
> > >
> > > Rather than making moron comments, I'd love for them to go into more
> depth.
> > > Speed TV needs more Car TV, not another cartoon channel.  I wish
they'd
> get
> > > rid of Adam Carolla and replace him with Tanner Faust.
> > >
> > > I spend a lot of time in hotels, and I nearly always have the TV
turned
> on.
> > > I don't really care about monster trucks, Nascar, or 18-wheelers.  I
> had
> > > high hopes for The Car Show, but so far it has been lacking.  If I
have
> to
> > > choose between Adam Carolla and an informercial about Sham-Wow, I'm
> > > probably
> > > going to watch Sham-Wow.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:
> detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of L GRAY
> > > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:42 PM
> > > To: michael at michaelshortt.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Car Show
> > >
> > >
> > > ...........................Yeahh   !  What you said !!!!!!!!!  To each
> his
> > > own...................
> > >
> > > > From: michaelsavga at gmail.com
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:19:25 -0400
> > > > To: peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net
> > > > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Car Show
> > > >
> > > > Well, no offense to some, Love the car and agree to a point, but
just
> for
> > > my
> > > > own taste for my own car.
> > > >
> > > > I like the look of a proper GT5 car, but only if I had two Pantera
> would
> > > > that be my choice.
> > > >
> > > > The fastest Pantera ( 234 mph ) doesn't have wings or flares. They
> slow
> > > the
> > > > car down with additional drag.
> > > >
> > > > The great thing about the car is that you can change them to match
> your
> > > > personality or desires.
> > > >
> > > > Just like some of you like blondes, redheads or brunettes, each to
> his
> > > own.
> > > >
> > > > Find a parking lot full of F-Cars and they all look the same except
> for
> > > the
> > > > dude who brought the blue one.
> > > >
> > > > I blacked out my dogbone air cleaner because I didn't want it
drawing
> the
> > > > viewer's eye into the hole back there,
> > > > the most beautiful angle on the car IMHO is the rear 3/4 view,
> nothing
> > > > should ruin it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael Shortt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Peter Kovacs
> > > > <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > They were discussing the return of the Pantera with the ZR-1
> engine.
> > > > > Thought it was a goods thing. I believe the remarks in question
> were...
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Love the car, hate the people who love the car' because they
> triple
> > > > > chrome plate the engines and put on big wings. I guess they saw
> Bob's
> > > car
> > > > > somewhere. In show biz, there is no such thing as negative
> attention,
> > > right?
> > > > > I was amused but not offended. Stung a little but happy with it
> > > overall.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about the rest of you?
> > > > >
> > > > > *Peter Kovacs*
> > > > > *209 345-6708 *
> > > > > *209 436-2000 fx*
> > > > >
> > > > > *From:* "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> > > > > *To:* cengles at cox.net; DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > > > > *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2011 8:51 AM
> > > > > *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] The Car Show
> > > > >
> > > > > *The Car Show* Gets Low Ratings
> > > > >
> > > > > By <http://www.insideline.com/staff/email-disclaimer.html>Lee
> > > > > Pray<http://www.insideline.com/about/authors/lee-pray.html>,
> > > > > Correspondent | Published Jul 22, 2011
> > > > > Poor So-So Pretty Good Good Excellent
> > > > >
> > > > > - Poor
> > > > > - So-So
> > > > > - Pretty Good
> > > > > - Good
> > > > > - Excellent
> > > > >
> > > > > 12 Ratings
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments (34)
> > > > > *Just the Facts:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Speed's The Car Show debuted last week to a modest audience.
> > > > > - Modest though it was, it's still not bad for the channel.
> > > > > - Mike Magrath<
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2011/07/the-car-show-episode-2-teas
> > > er-brian-johnson-girls-driving-stick-and-a-ferrari.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > > not the only person who tuned in.
> > > > >
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > > > *SOUTH BEND, Indiana* - Speed's *The Car Show* aired its second
> episode
> > > > > this
> > > > > week and that begs the question: Is anyone watching? Well, yes.
But
> not
> > > so
> > > > > many people that they shouldn't be on a first-name basis with one
> > > another.
> > > > >
> > > > > Because Speed's audience is specialized (read "small") our usual
> > > sources
> > > > > for
> > > > > ratings information like TVByTheNumbers.com don't cover the cable
> > > channel.
> > > > > So instead *Inside Line* called Matt Edmonds, vice president of
> > > marketing
> > > > > at
> > > > > The Tire Rack, whose company has been supporting the show. Edmonds
> in
> > > turn
> > > > > referred us to The Richards Group, which does much of the media
> buying
> > > (air
> > > > > time and the like) for The Tire Rack. And The Richards Group gave
> us
> > > the
> > > > > numbers they got from the Nielsen Company. So here they are:
> > > > >
> > > > > Total Households: 249,000
> > > > > Men 25-54: 87,000
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep in mind that Speed is, in the words of Adam Carolla, "deep
> cable"
> > > and
> > > > > isn't carried as part of many basic cable packages. Nowhere near
as
> > > many
> > > > > as,
> > > > > say, History, which carries the U.S. version of*Top Gear*. For
> > > instance,
> > > *
> > > > > Pinks*, the show that ran before *The Car Show*, only pulled in
> about 5
> > > > > percent more male viewers ages 25-54. And *Speed Makers*, the show
> that
> > > was
> > > > > in *The Car Show's* time slot the week before, attracted about 5
> > > percent
> > > > > fewer male viewers 25-54.
> > > > >
> > > > > America's *Top Gear*
> > > > > premiered<
> http://www.insideline.com/features/review-top-gear-usa.html>
> > > > > to
> > > > > an audience of about 1.9 million last year. So the first episode
of
> > > *The
> > > > > Car
> > > > > Show* attracted between 1/7th and 1/8th that number of eyeballs.
> Yes,
> > > many
> > > > > YouTube videos get more views.
> > > > >
> > > > > But all this needs to be kept in perspective. "For a show that's
> just
> > > > > starting on that channel," said The Tire Rack's Edmonds, "it's a
> > > > > respectable
> > > > > start."
> > > > >
> > > > > *Inside Line says:* It's going to be awhile before *The Car Show*
> > > attracts
> > > > > the critical mass for it to be an important part of America's
> > > automotive
> > > > > culture.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> > > > > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Keep in mind, it's Adam Corolla, failed side kick and Datsun Z
> Car
> > > lover.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:44 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Dear Nancy,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 1) It is good to "see" you back on the Forum
> > > > > >> 2) Correct, I don't watch TV
> > > > > >> 3) So what unpleasant truth did Adam Corolla express about
> Pantera
> > > > > owners?
> > > > > >> 4) I have a feeling that this topic may certainly stimulate the
> > > > > >> Forum.......
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ---- "gonancy at juno.com" <gonancy at juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > Did everyone on the forum choose to ignore what Adam Corolla
> said
> > > > > about
> > > > > >> Pantera Owners on his show (The Car Show) this passed Wednesday
> or
> > > don't
> > > > > you
> > > > > >> guys watch TV.
> > > > > >> > I figured there would be flaming emails for days.
> > > > > >> > Well I thought his remarks were like being told something
that
> you
> > > > > don't
> > > > > >> want to hear but know to be true.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Go Nancy
> > > > > >> > Glad someone finally said it.
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