[DeTomaso] FW: NPC: The F-car

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I bought a junky old Nascar from the Auborn auction a couple years ago.

Charles Engles wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: larry gilmore [mailto:mgilmore11 at mchsi.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:22 PM
> To: Charles Engles
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: The F-car
>
>       Hi Chuck! Just returned from the RM Collector Car auction in Auburn
> Indiana.
> I have lots of real Ferrari items in my collection, including dealership
> signs, cam covers, etc. Talked to a number of Ferrari owners at Auburn, as
> elsewhere, the recurring complaint is the huge operating costs, including
> now the "engine out belt service" being specified by Ferrari EVERY 3 years,
> and the steady decline in values of most of the Ferraris made in the last 30
> years or so, a few exceptions, the 288 GTO, F40, F50, and Enzo.Talked to a
> new owner of a beautiful  Testarossa, said he would love to "get on it" once
> in a while, but a ring &pinion for that car, he said, is $13,000.00! About a
> year ago Forza magazine followed a shop doing a rebuild on transmissions out
> of a Testarossa, and a 512 Boxer, the cost was around $15-16 THOUSAND for
> EACH transmission! OUCH!!! If the valves need to be replaced in a 355, they
> are $500.00, PER valve, and there are 5 valves per combustion chamber. And
> that brings up the MOST important thing about the Pantera, it truly is the
> most pratical, and easy to maintain, EXOTIC car on the planet. Things can, &
> do break on the Pantera, as on any car, can, but they will not break your
> bank account when that happens. Yes, I love Ferraris, but I know, if I ever
> buy one, I will take a financial beating on the car, no matter how good of
> care I give it. You can post this on the "net" if you  wish.
>
>
>  Best regards,
>
>               mike gilmore, 1984, GT-5  
>
>
>
>  -- Original Message -----
> From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: "'Mikael'" <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: The F-car
>
>
>   
>> Dear Mikael,
>>
>>            I just returned from the Dallas-Ft. Worth Italian Car Fest
>> yesterday.  Egad, your pithy comments perfectly nailed the sociology and
>> human behavior seen at these things.  I have friends that ask me if I want
>> to buy a Ferrari and I always tell them I would much rather have another
>> Pantera for all the reasons you mentioned.  Well said, sir.
>>
>>            I often ponder why it is that a collection of sheet metal,
>> aluminum, cast iron, rubber and copper wire has such an effect on me and
>> other Pantera owners.  I conclude that it is a combination of Tjaarda's
>> genius styling, Dallara's genius engineering and the wonderful people that
>> seem to own these cars.
>>
>>
>>                  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>>     
> On
>   
>> Behalf Of Mikael
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:44 AM
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: The F-car
>>
>> Admitted, I once was close to buying a 365 GTC/4. But today I'm glad I
>>     
> don't
>   
>> own that brand. Was at car show yesterday, 4 Panteras, 5 Ferraris right
>> opposite. Of course most people around the F-cars. But listening to the
>> stupidity of the questions, the know-it-alls, the envious people and the
>> many many wannabees, I was happy I was in the other camp. "What's the fuel
>> mileage, ha ha?" was heard multiple times.
>>
>> Around the Panteras (and Maseratis and classic Fiats and Alfas) the proper
>> enthusiasts were plentiful. Around the F-cars there wasn't room for them
>> because of the wannabees. If I owned an F-car, I would never park
>>     
> anywhere!
>   
>> Anybody else has the same experience? Ferrari, great traditions, some
>>     
> great
>   
>> cars, ridiculous running costs and unbearable fans :-)
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>>
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