[DeTomaso] unions?

Bill Lewis lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 30 22:43:08 EDT 2011


Here's another thing that I think we could all agree on!!  Not a bad idea.      ---Bill



Christmas 2011 -- Birth of a New TraditionAs the holidays approach, the giant Asian factories are kicking into high gear to provide Americans with monstrous piles of cheaply produced goods -- merchandise that has been produced at the expense of American labor. This year will be different. This year Americans will give the gift of genuine concern for other Americans. There is no longer an excuse ......that, at gift giving time, nothing can be found that is produced by American hands. Yes there is!It's time to think outside the box, people. Who says a gift needs to fit in a shirt box, wrapped in Chinese produced wrapping paper?Everyone -- yes EVERYONE gets their hair cut. How about gift certificates from your local American hair salon or barber?Gym membership? It's appropriate for all ages who are thinking about some health improvement.Who wouldn't appreciate getting their car detailed? Small, American owned detail shops and car washes would love to sell you a gift certificate or a book of gift certificates.Are you one of those extravagant givers who think nothing of plonking down the Benjamines on a Chinese made flat-screen? Perhaps that grateful gift receiver would like his driveway sealed, or lawn mowed for the summer, or driveway plowed all winter, or games at the local golf course.There are a bazillion owner-run restaurants -- all offering gift certificates. And, if your intended isn't the fancy eatery sort, what about a half dozen breakfasts at the local breakfast joint. Remember, folks this isn't about big National chains -- this is about supporting your home town Americans with their financial lives on the line to keep their doors open.How many people couldn't use an oil change for their car, truck or motorcycle, done at a shop run by the American working guy?Thinking about a heartfelt gift for mom? Mom would LOVE the services of a local cleaning lady for a day.My computer could use a tune-up, and I KNOW I can find some young guy who is struggling to get his repair business up and running.OK, you were looking for something more personal. Local crafts people spin their own wool and knit them into scarves. They make jewelry, and pottery and beautiful wooden boxes.Plan your holiday outings at local, owner operated restaurants and leave your server a nice tip. And, how about going out to see a play or ballet at your hometown theatre.Musicians need love too, so find a venue showcasing local bands.Honestly, people, do you REALLY need to buy another ten thousand Chinese lights for the house? When you buy a five dollar string of light, about fifty cents stays in the community. If you have those kinds of bucks to burn, leave the mailman, trash guy or babysitter a nice BIG tip.You see, Christmas is no longer about draining American pockets so that  China can build another glittering city. Christmas is now about caring about US, encouraging American small businesses to keep plugging away to follow their dreams. And, when we care about other Americans, we care about our communities, and the benefits come back to us in ways we couldn't imagine. THIS is the new American Christmas.  Spread the Christmas cheer! 
> From: lotus0005 at hotmail.com
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:02:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] unions?
> 
> 
> Michael, I knew I liked you, now I know why!  In 1970, I sold two 1953 Corvettes (look at them on eBay) for $1,500.00 to open our first business.  Another for instance:  we had a driving school - I was the lead instructor at first.  Seven days a week!  On sundays, I would be across town and drive two students, be back home in time for church, then back across town to teach 6 more students.  For instance!  Dude, we have earned our right!    ---Bill (and, yep, they got hugged and kissed) Lewis
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> 
> 
> > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:54:34 -0700
> > From: sedond at yahoo.com
> > To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] unions?
> > 
> > michael, i commend you.  seriously.  job well done.
> > 
> > best,
> > 
> > doug s.,
> > #2602
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >________________________________
> > >From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> > >To: doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>
> > >Cc: "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>; GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> > >Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:53 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] unions?
> > >
> > >
> > >I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT  OF THE SELF EMPLOYED DREAMLAND FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS.  I live by my wits and do not depend upon anyone else or any government funding.  
> > >Anybody who is unhappy should try it if they have the backbone.  I started out
> > >Broke, freshly divorced and an outsider in a established good ole boy city. 
> > >My only remaining credit card was from Sears, I bought a 699.00 fax machine and made a desk out of a old door.
> > >Boo hoo for whiners and folks who want it delivered on a silver platter.
> > >If THE MAN ain't making you happy, be gone.
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >On Oct 30, 2011 8:27 PM, "doug sedon" <sedond at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >unfortunately the govt is still encouraging corporations, banks and financial companies to off-shore their work, and prowiding them w/taxpayer funded welfare - they make money when they make money, and they get money from taxpayers when they lose money.  i certainly didn't get my wish.  i will get my wish when govt encourages corporations to manufacture good here, by dis-incentivizing them to go off-shore.  and i will get my wish when they go out of business when they fail in the market place, instead of being subsidized by taxpayer money.  the prosperity is gone not cuz the companies are gone, but cuz they sent it all off-shore. w/the govt letting them do it, thanks to the corporations & banks owning the govt.  corporate american is BOOMING today; they are ROLLING in money.  the financial institutions that were bailed out w/govt  taxpayer money are also BOOMING!  not sure what dreamland you are living in...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>doug s.,
> > >>#2602
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>________________________________
> > >>>From: GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> > >>>To: doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>
> > >>>Cc: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > >>>Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:01 PM
> > >>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] unions?
> > >>>
> > >>>You got your wish!!! Many are gone for good. Not just the jobs but the prosperity too!
> > >>>
> > >>>doug sedon wrote:
> > >>>> somebody needs to bring the corporations to their knees.  cuz if it doesn't happen, then the corporations, not the unions, will bring the usa to its knees.  hell, it's already happening.  after all, corporations are people, too...
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> doug s.,
> > >>>> #2602
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>     *From:* GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> > >>>>     *To:* michael at michaelshortt.com
> > >>>>     *Cc:* doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com"
> > >>>>     <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > >>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:32 PM
> > >>>>     *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to shoot for
> > >>>>     (NPC))
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>     Union words I have heard which shows exactly what unions are "We
> > >>>>     are going to bring this country to it's knees!".....And they
> > >>>>     do...and then the industry in this country looks like Detroit.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>     Unions rob the worker too. Just one more nickel per dollar. It's
> > >>>>     no big deal. Again and again.  And then the pension is not there.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>    michael at michaelshortt.com <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     > I really admire the CEO of Quantas wbo shut down the whole
> > >>>>     airline this week because the unions were bleeding it dry.
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     > I really feel for the NBA owners, but they caused this to happen
> > >>>>     by overpaying the players to start with. Personally, the NBA can
> > >>>>     die for all I care.
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     > Unions had a time in history, but the ideals were polluted by
> > >>>>     politics and the mob.  Anytime massive sums of money are involved
> > >>>>     it creates an opportunity for the degradation of morals and honor.
> > >>>> 
> >     >
> > >>>>     > Children shouldn't work in sweat shops, workplaces should be
> > >>>>     safe to avoid disasters like the Triangle Shirt factory fire,
> > >>>>     Miners shouldn't breathe coal dust, unions helped change these
> > >>>>     things before government agencies like OSHA existed.
> > >>>>     > They served a purpose that should never be forgotten.
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     > Michael Shortt
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     > On Oct 30, 2011 6:01 PM, "doug sedon" <sedond at yahoo.com
> > >>>>     <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com> <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com
> > >>>>     <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>>> wrote:
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >    it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies'
> > >>>>     >    greed and their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea
> > >>>>     that an
> > >>>>     >    honest working class blue collar worker can support a family on a
> > >>>>     >    decent wage?  unions made this possible.  the problem we are
> > >>>>     >    having is that the federal government deregulation has allowed
> > >>>>     >    companies to move offshore, cutting their costs substantially,
> > >>>>     >    while keeping the prices of the products the same.  great for the
> > >>>>     >    rich stockholders and
> >  ceo's, screw everyone else.  if these
> > >>>>     >    companies were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits
> > >>>>     >    of slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental
> > >>>>     >    regulation, etc.; then there would not have been such a huge
> > >>>>     >    exodus of american manufacturing to third-world countries.
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >    interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class,
> > >>>>     >    and its unions:
> > >>>>     >       http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >    regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying
> > >>>>     >    from
> >  non-american companies, who use american labor.     non-american
> > >>>>     >    companies typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average
> > >>>>     >    workers earn; w/american companies this figure is more like 300
> > >>>>     >    times the salary of the average worker.  here's a guide for
> > >>>>     >    wehicles and where they're made.  notice many foreign auto
> > >>>>     >    companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to america.  but at
> > >>>>     >    least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental standards,
> > >>>>     >    etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >   
> >  http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >    ymmv,
> > >>>>     >
> > >>>>     >    doug s.,
> > >>>>     >    #2602
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