[DeTomaso] unions?
GW
gow2 at rc-tech.net
Sun Oct 30 22:06:08 EDT 2011
I started a business this past year with my neighbor and his brother.
Our business plan is based on not hiring anyone ....ZERO EMPLOYEES...and
lots of automated equipment. It is the only way we could do what we do
with the current state, our country and industry is in. The other two
members are ex-unions members and they lost their entire pension when
they left because the union did not feel they deserved it leaving. They
were paying $.40 a dollar to unions and healthcare when they left and
all they were doing was lining the pockets of the sr union members.
Gary
michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
>
> I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE SELF EMPLOYED DREAMLAND FOR THE LAST 22
> YEARS. I live by my wits and do not depend upon anyone else or any
> government funding.
>
> Anybody who is unhappy should try it if they have the backbone. I
> started out
> Broke, freshly divorced and an outsider in a established good ole boy
> city.
> My only remaining credit card was from Sears, I bought a 699.00 fax
> machine and made a desk out of a old door.
>
> Boo hoo for whiners and folks who want it delivered on a silver platter.
> If THE MAN ain't making you happy, be gone.
>
> Michael
>
> On Oct 30, 2011 8:27 PM, "doug sedon" <sedond at yahoo.com
> <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> unfortunately the govt is still encouraging corporations, banks
> and financial companies to off-shore their work, and prowiding
> them w/taxpayer funded welfare - they make money when they make
> money, and they get money from taxpayers when they lose money. i
> certainly didn't get my wish. i will get my wish when govt
> encourages corporations to manufacture good here, by
> dis-incentivizing them to go off-shore. and i will get my wish
> when they go out of business when they fail in the market place,
> instead of being subsidized by taxpayer money. the prosperity is
> gone not cuz the companies are gone, but cuz they sent it all
> off-shore. w/the govt letting them do it, thanks to the
> corporations & banks owning the govt. corporate american is
> BOOMING today; they are ROLLING in money. the financial
> institutions that were bailed out w/govt taxpayer money are also
> BOOMING! not sure what dreamland you are living in...
>
> doug s.,
> #2602
>
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> *From:* GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>>
> *To:* doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>>
> *Cc:* "michael at michaelshortt.com
> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>" <michael at michaelshortt.com
> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>; "detomaso at realbig.com
> <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>" <detomaso at realbig.com
> <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] unions?
>
> You got your wish!!! Many are gone for good. Not just the jobs
> but the prosperity too!
>
> doug sedon wrote:
> > somebody needs to bring the corporations to their knees.
> cuz if it doesn't happen, then the corporations, not the
> unions, will bring the usa to its knees. hell, it's already
> happening. after all, corporations are people, too...
> >
> > doug s.,
> > #2602
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>>
> > *To:* michael at michaelshortt.com
> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> > *Cc:* doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com
> <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>>; "detomaso at realbig.com
> <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>"
> > <detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>>
> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:32 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to
> shoot for
> > (NPC))
> >
> > Union words I have heard which shows exactly what unions
> are "We
> > are going to bring this country to it's knees!".....And they
> > do...and then the industry in this country looks like
> Detroit.
> >
> > Unions rob the worker too. Just one more nickel per
> dollar. It's
> > no big deal. Again and again. And then the pension is
> not there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > michael at michaelshortt.com
> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I really admire the CEO of Quantas wbo shut down the whole
> > airline this week because the unions were bleeding it dry.
> > >
> > > I really feel for the NBA owners, but they caused this
> to happen
> > by overpaying the players to start with. Personally, the
> NBA can
> > die for all I care.
> > >
> > > Unions had a time in history, but the ideals were
> polluted by
> > politics and the mob. Anytime massive sums of money are
> involved
> > it creates an opportunity for the degradation of morals
> and honor.
> > >
> > > Children shouldn't work in sweat shops, workplaces
> should be
> > safe to avoid disasters like the Triangle Shirt factory fire,
> > Miners shouldn't breathe coal dust, unions helped change
> these
> > things before government agencies like OSHA existed.
> > > They served a purpose that should never be forgotten.
> > >
> > > Michael Shortt
> > >
> > > On Oct 30, 2011 6:01 PM, "doug sedon" <sedond at yahoo.com
> <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>>
> <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > it is not the unions that are causing the problem
> w/companies'
> > > greed and their going off-shore. what is wrong
> w/the idea
> > that an
> > > honest working class blue collar worker can support
> a family on a
> > > decent wage? unions made this possible. the
> problem we are
> > > having is that the federal government deregulation
> has allowed
> > > companies to move offshore, cutting their costs
> substantially,
> > > while keeping the prices of the products the same.
> great for the
> > > rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.
> if these
> > > companies were regulated so as to not be able to
> reap the profits
> > > of slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore
> safety/enwironmental
> > > regulation, etc.; then there would not have been
> such a huge
> > > exodus of american manufacturing to third-world
> countries.
> > >
> > > interesting article, tracking the fate of america's
> middle class,
> > > and its unions:
> > >
> http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/
> > >
> > > regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where
> possible, buying
> > > from non-american companies, who use american
> labor. non-american
> > > companies typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what
> their average
> > > workers earn; w/american companies this figure is
> more like 300
> > > times the salary of the average worker. here's a
> guide for
> > > wehicles and where they're made. notice many
> foreign auto
> > > companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to
> america. but at
> > > least here, there are reasonable
> safety/enwironmental standards,
> > > etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence
> wages...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml
> > >
> > > ymmv,
> > >
> > > doug s.,
> > > #2602
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