[DeTomaso] unions?

[GW]

You got your wish!!! Many are gone for good. Not just the jobs but the 
prosperity too!

doug sedon wrote:
> somebody needs to bring the corporations to their knees.  cuz if it 
> doesn't happen, then the corporations, not the unions, will bring the 
> usa to its knees.  hell, it's already happening.  after all, 
> corporations are people, too...
>
> doug s.,
> #2602
>
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>     *From:* GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>     *To:* michael at michaelshortt.com
>     *Cc:* doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com"
>     <detomaso at realbig.com>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:32 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to shoot for
>     (NPC))
>
>     Union words I have heard which shows exactly what unions are "We
>     are going to bring this country to it's knees!".....And they
>     do...and then the industry in this country looks like Detroit.
>
>     Unions rob the worker too. Just one more nickel per dollar. It's
>     no big deal. Again and again.  And then the pension is not there.
>
>
>
>
>     michael at michaelshortt.com <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > I really admire the CEO of Quantas wbo shut down the whole
>     airline this week because the unions were bleeding it dry.
>     >
>     > I really feel for the NBA owners, but they caused this to happen
>     by overpaying the players to start with. Personally, the NBA can
>     die for all I care.
>     >
>     > Unions had a time in history, but the ideals were polluted by
>     politics and the mob.  Anytime massive sums of money are involved
>     it creates an opportunity for the degradation of morals and honor.
>     >
>     > Children shouldn't work in sweat shops, workplaces should be
>     safe to avoid disasters like the Triangle Shirt factory fire,
>     Miners shouldn't breathe coal dust, unions helped change these
>     things before government agencies like OSHA existed.
>     > They served a purpose that should never be forgotten.
>     >
>     > Michael Shortt
>     >
>     > On Oct 30, 2011 6:01 PM, "doug sedon" <sedond at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com> <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:sedond at yahoo.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >    it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies'
>     >    greed and their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea
>     that an
>     >    honest working class blue collar worker can support a family on a
>     >    decent wage?  unions made this possible.  the problem we are
>     >    having is that the federal government deregulation has allowed
>     >    companies to move offshore, cutting their costs substantially,
>     >    while keeping the prices of the products the same.  great for the
>     >    rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.  if these
>     >    companies were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits
>     >    of slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental
>     >    regulation, etc.; then there would not have been such a huge
>     >    exodus of american manufacturing to third-world countries.
>     >
>     >    interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class,
>     >    and its unions:
>     >   
>     http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/
>     >
>     >    regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying
>     >    from non-american companies, who use american labor. 
>     non-american
>     >    companies typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average
>     >    workers earn; w/american companies this figure is more like 300
>     >    times the salary of the average worker.  here's a guide for
>     >    wehicles and where they're made.  notice many foreign auto
>     >    companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to america.  but at
>     >    least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental standards,
>     >    etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...
>     >
>     >
>     >    http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml
>     >
>     >    ymmv,
>     >
>     >    doug s.,
>     >    #2602
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