[DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to shoot for (NPC))

[Steve Hawkins]

What you refer to as slave labor is a living wage in other countries, their
cost of living is way less than ours so to compare their wage to ours is
misleading.  I use to be in a union and I can tell you from first hand
experience that the union mentality is to take the company for all you can,
it's not about a living wage or workers rights anymore.  If unions and
companies don't work together they both will fail.  What is a travesty is
that many unions demand so much that they price themselves out of a job.
What should be against the law is to have to be in a union to get a job,
that's nothing but blackmail.  

It's the federal regulation that's driving many companies off shore, more
regulation will drive even more off shore.  Most stock holders aren't rich
and there is nothing wrong with investing in a company and reaping profits
if they're successful.

The most the federal government should do is try and create an environment
that's conducive to people working and striving for whatever standard of
living they would like.  We shouldn't be envious of millionares/billionares,
I'm happy for every one of them and wish them well.  Class envy is
destroying our country, all that the federal government has done with
welfare is create another class of slaves to the elected officials.  If
people are struggling it should be neighbor helping neighbor and private
institutions that help out fellow Americans.

Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
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Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 5:01 PM
To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
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Subject: [DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to shoot for (NPC))


it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies' greed and
their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea that an honest working
class blue collar worker can support a family on a decent wage?  unions made
this possible.  the problem we are having is that the federal government
deregulation has allowed companies to move offshore, cutting their costs
substantially, while keeping the prices of the products the same.  great for
the rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.  if these companies
were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits of slave-wage-rate
labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental regulation, etc.; then there would
not have been such a huge exodus of american manufacturing to third-world
countries.

interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class, and its
unions:
http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-fac
tor-in-income-inequality/

regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying from
non-american companies, who use american labor.  non-american companies
typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average workers earn;
w/american companies this figure is more like 300 times the salary of the
average worker.  here's a guide for wehicles and where they're made.  notice
many foreign auto companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to america. 
but at least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental standards,
etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...


http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml

ymmv,

doug s.,
#2602
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