[DeTomaso] X vs.H pipe commentary . . .

[Arno Keijzer]

David, I posted a picture at the pantera forum, it is a single  
flowmaster.
Arno

Op 30 okt 2011, om 19:58 heeft David in Durango het volgende geschreven:

> Chuck,
>
> This is pretty much how my data acquisition (possibly failing  
> memory) has
> it.
>
> the Pantera will get 180s (Dan says no great power gain, IIRC) but the
> orgasmic sound may dictate their use.
>
> the next project (after the Pantera) is rattling around my head  
> now.  My
> impression is some crossover better than none.  Drone is a  
> consideration,
> too.  I am also wondering if one could route a single pipe from each  
> bank
> into a common muffler at the rear?
>
> Thanks for the little jog to my memory, I appreciate it!
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: "'David in Durango'" <adin at frontier.net>
> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] X vs.H pipe commentary . . .
>
>
>> Dear David,
>>
>>
>>              The X v. H pipe controversy.....the final word may be  
>> from
>> Dan Jones, but here is what I have read and think I know.
>>
>> 1) the X&H crossover pipes improve the exhaust performance
>> 2) the benefit varies with the size of the crossover, the size of the
>> exhaust pipe and the position of the crossover fore or aft in the  
>> exhaust
>> pipes south of the collector
>> 3) the benefit varies also with the factors of the engine size and  
>> primary
>> header pipe size
>> 4) the Pantera greatly limits one's ability to place any crossover  
>> pipe
>> 5) I can recall only one or two crossover pipes on Panteras and both
>> crossover just behind the rear sway bar brackets
>> 6) One of the Pantera owners was Bob Woodhouse, who told me that it  
>> helped
>> the low end torque a little bit with his nationally competitive SCCA
>> autocross winning Pantera
>>
>>
>>            Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com 
>> ]
>> On
>> Behalf Of David in Durango
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:14 AM
>> To: panteras
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] More social commentary . . .
>>
>> Well, you puddin' heads have me all grouchy and nasty again . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> "Not all people living on assistance
>> are bums"
>> Amen.  I paid my $3000 student loan, went to Viet Nam (x2 what was I
>> thinking?) and was spat upon for my effort, worked my whole life  
>> and now
>> have about enough SS to pay your feminine hygiene bill for the  
>> month -
>> does
>> this make me a bad person?  If so, please review what the "driving  
>> finger"
>> means (with splintery redwood stick).
>>
>>
>>> About a third of my daughters' public school teachers were  
>>> terrible.?
>>> When
>>> we complained, we were told that they had tenure and were  
>>> untouchable.
>>> ?
>>
>> Are the teachers bad?  All I can say is this: look at the product
>> produced.
>> It is sad.
>>
>> David in Durango
>> still grouchy, still dirty, still willing to help those in need no  
>> matter
>> how f__ked up your politics might be.
>>
>> OK, going for a walk in the morning sun ,. . . . .
>>
>> Pantera content: anyone know if X-pipe or H-pipe is better?  Do you  
>> have
>> documentation? thanks.
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