[DeTomaso] Something to shoot for (NPC)

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 29 14:23:52 EDT 2011


Sean,
 
    I don't think any of us want to see people living in terrible conditions and dying in the street, but I think the problem with the government taking care of everyone in need is:
 
1)  the government is terribly inefficient.
2)  the welfare system motivated women to have more children and not marry the fathers.
3)  the government supports teachers unions that demand life time jobs for terrible teachers.
4)  there is not an infinite amount of money to tax to help the needy.
etc.
 
   We are currently seeing that the government threw away half a billion for obsolete solar technology at Solendra (officers making almost a million a year) and another half a billion for a car made in Finland that will probably be a failure (unless more tax money is thrown at it in the form of tax credits).  This doesn't give me much confidence in Washington.
 
   The OWS folks correctly point out that tax payers should never ever again bail out big business, but their main goal seems to be a nanny state, and that just does not work (look at Greece).   
 
Ken


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From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Something to shoot for (NPC)

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Boy, Michael - hey I just read my copy of Esquire magazine, and it had a cartoon at the end about what is a Libertarian!  I'm not one, but my point is, I wish they would do that same thing for a Democrat.  Half of the folks in America are Dems, and I do not understand them.  Why do you want to pay taxes  to support people who are bums, etc.  My only Dem friend can only answer me about the greed on Wall Street, whereas I have multiple reasons against the Dems planks in their platform.  KEEP YOUR HAND OUT OF MY POCKET!!!  So, I make 10 times what you do.  I earned that right, and I PAY for that right (hours worked and anxiety and stress and...)  Arrrrghhhh!!!!!!
>

I can't believe I've been missing out on this :)

Just a couple of observations.  Not all people living on assistance
are bums.  Not all OWS protesters are unemployed or lazy.  Not all OWS
feel like welching on their loans.

I think the interesting question is, does the government have a role
in helping people that have limited opportunity, and if it does, is it
worth it to give assistance if that means that even one bum will game
the system?

It's useful and even lazy to paint all people in a group with a single
brush.  They are the other and we are us.  I think this will always be
a struggle to communicate our needs and limitations.  And I firmly
believe we have the best system for doing that.  It's just a little
broken now that money talks and BS has all the money.  Maybe a few
people making it hard to cross the sidewalk will get some attention?

--
Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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