[DeTomaso] unions and govenrment

Wed Nov 2 03:55:56 EDT 2011

just hit the delete button, you don't have to read it!

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Denny Morse
Sent: 2011-11-01 18:11
To: doug sedon
Cc: Ken Green; michael at michaelshortt.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] unions and govenrment

Hello,

I only recently joined POCA and this mailing list. I never expected to have
to read crap like this on a mailing list devoted to De Tomaso. I think
postings like this really detracts from the quality of this mailing list as
a whole. In my opinion this belongs on a different group mailing list.
There are many many placed to state your economic and political positions,
as well as religious opinions, etc., but this doesn't seem to be the right
place for it.

It's sad by I've had to create a gmail filter to delete anything to or from
sedond at yahoo.com. Doug please keep these opinions on your blog where they
belong.

Cheers,

Denny
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM, doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com> wrote:

> what a narrow minded cretin.  what he fails to see is that he's no
> different that the folks who work for him, according to those corporate
> interests that are really running things!  and the corporate interests are
> the ones running the show, not the dems or the repubs... he paid $288k in
> taxes last quarter?!?  HAHAHAHA - he paid more than General Electric!!!!
>
>
> doug s.,
> #2602
> ps - check your history - about what the regulation and tax burden was,
> when the america's economy was doing best.  lemme give you a hint - it
> wasn't when the tax/regulation rates were lower...
> pps - the constitution certainly has bee steamrolled - corporations have
> free speech rights and can give as much money as they like to politicians -
> cuz they're PEOPLE!!!
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> >To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> >Cc: doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>; "michael at michaelshortt.com" <
> michael at michaelshortt.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:32 AM
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] unions and govenrment
> >
> >
> >*Subject:* This is the best letter I have read on what's wrong with this
> country
> >If you doubt, Google the company and man who wrote this…….
> >*
> >
> >Michael A. Crowley, PE* is the owner of Crowley & Associates, Inc. And
> was President and an owner of Crowley, Crisp & Associates, Inc. And Michael
> A. Crowley, PC. As President of Crowley & Associates, Inc., Mike is a lead
> designer of water supply, treatment and storage projects, regional sewage
> lift station design, and residential and commercial site development
> projects and is responsible for the management of the firm. Mike’s industry
> background includes over 20 years experience in the civil engineering field
> inclusive of executive level responsibilities in Marketing and Project
> Management. Prior to founding Michael A. Crowley, PC, Mike held positions
> with several engineering firms in North Carolina and Maine. Mike holds a
> B.S. Degree in Civil Engineering from University of Maine and a Master of
> Business Administration from Boston College. Mike is a member of the
> American Water Works Association (AWWA) and holds professional
> registrations in North
>  Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Arkansas, Texas, Arizona,
> New Mexico, Indiana, Maine, Tennessee, Australia, and Trinidad & Tobago,
> West Indies. Mike is a native of Norridgewock, Maine. The Crowley family
> resides in Wake Forest.
> >/To All My Valued Employees,
> >
> >There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this
> company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has
> changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good news
> is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job.
> >
> >What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape
> in this country. Of course, as your employer, I am forbidden to tell you
> whom to vote for - it is against the law to discriminate based on political
> affiliation, race, creed, religion, etc.
> >
> >Please vote for who you think will serve your interests the best.
> However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you
> decide what is in your best interest. First, while it is easy to spew
> rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand
> that for every business owner there is a back story.
> >
> >This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and
> hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You saw my big home at
> last years Christmas party. I'm sure all these flashy icons of luxury
> conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life. However, what you don't
> see is the back story.
> >
> >I started this company 12 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300
> square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living space was
> converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a
> company, which by the way, would eventually employ you.
> >
> >My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every dollar I spent
> went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota Corolla with a
> defective transmission. I didn't have time to date Often times, I stayed
> home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact,
> I was married to my business -- hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.
> >
> >Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a
> modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars
> and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of
> hitting Nordstrom's for the latest hot fashion item, I was trolling through
> the Goodwill store extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it
> was birthed in the 70's.
> >
> >My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I,
> however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business ---
> with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford
> these luxuries my friends supposedly had.
> >
> >So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9 am, mentally check in
> at about noon, and then leave at 5 PM, I don't. There is no "off" button
> for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all
> to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, ****, and
> breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no
> weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to me
> like a 1 day old baby.
> >
> >You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the
> Mercedes, the vacations... You never realize the back story and the
> sacrifices I've made. Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that
> made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail out all the
> people who didn't.
> >
> >The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the
> same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for. Yes,
> business ownership has its benefits but the price I've paid is steep and
> not without wounds. Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and
> employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and
> let me tell you why:
> >
> >I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I
> have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes.
> Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on
> taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess
> what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and
> regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my
> time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for
> quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.
> >
> >The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy
> who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000
> people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting
> at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check?
> >
> >Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this
> country. The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck
> you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts.
> Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which
> is why your job is in jeopardy. Here is what many of you don't understand
> .. to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy.
> Had suddenly government mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes,
> guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington
> black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated
> substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of
> that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can
> forget it now.
> >
> >When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't
> defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life,
> do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of
> America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill
> it. Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the mud of America
> are the essential drivers of the American economic engine.
> >
> >Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change
> you can keep. So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple. If any
> new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and
> simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the
> government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future.
> Frankly, it isn't my problem any more. Then, I will close this company
> down, move to another country, and retire.
> >
> >You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the productive
> and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs
> will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.
> >
> >While tax cuts to 95% of America sounds great on paper, don't forget the
> back story: If there is no job, there is no income to tax. A tax cut on
> zero dollars is zero. So, when you make decision to vote, ask yourself, who
> understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose
> policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know
> who might be the one capable of saving your job. While the media wants to
> tell you "It's the economy Stupid" I'm telling you it isn't.
> >
> >If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be
> at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country,
> steamrolled the Constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever.
> If that happens, you can find me in the South Caribbeansitting on a beach,
> retired, and with no employees to worry about.
> >
> >Signed, Your boss,/
> >/Michael A. Crowley, PE
> >Crowley, Crisp & Associates, Inc.
> >Professional Engineers
> >1906 South Main Street, Suite 122
> >Wake Forest, NC 27587
> >Phone: 919.562.8860 x22
> >Fax: 919.562.8872/
> >/Location: This is a real letter/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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