[DeTomaso] my final word on retrotek powerjection

[Justin Greisberg]

Will is 100% correct, EXCEPT for one thing.  With EZ EFI and retrotek powerjection, you dont need a dyno.  I think even with the fancy XFI, there are self-adaptive protocols so the car can tune itself.  BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN HIS LIST IS PRETTY MUCH ON THE MONEY!!!
 
I have probably pulled my car out of the basement, onto the driveway, and run it for 15 mins trying new combos with no success about 25 times over the last year. sometime i even go around the block once.  I drove it 2 miles on one day, which is the record for me so far...  But keep in mind, sometimes it is a leaky brake fitting, or a dead battery, or an empty fuel tank... that cuts the day short. Some days the fuel injection actually works really well!!
Justin
 
> From: wdemelo at cogeco.ca
> To: justingreisberg at hotmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com; rgreisberg at optonline.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] my final word on retrotek powerjection
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:55:47 -0400
> 
> I'll throw my 2cents in...
> I installed a FAST XFI system. Here's what I learned...
> * make sure you're computer literate (I'm not)
> *make sure you have lots of money
> * make sure you have tuning knowledge (I don't)
> *make sure you own a dyno or have a friend who can drive while you tune for 
> many hours
> *make sure you have LOTS of time to learn (I don't-wife +kids)
> * make sure you find out which guy at tech support knows his stuff (most 
> don't)
> OR make sure there is a local tuner that knows your software.
> I found out that most say they know everything and most know a lot about 
> fu$kall.
> Will (in deep $$$)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Justin Greisberg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:41 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com ; rich
> Subject: [DeTomaso] my final word on retrotek powerjection
> 
> 
> sorry to keep sending my my trials and tribulations, but I wish I had seen 
> this before I took the EFI plunge. I have spent more than a year (here and 
> there) trying to perfect the cold start and cold idle troubles of my 
> retrotek EFI system.
> 
> So, I discovered there are some forums discussing do it yourself EFI 
> systems - FAST has one that includes their EZ EFI, which gives a lot of 
> generic info, and there are a bunch of people discussing the retrotek system 
> on v8buick.com, under high tech for old iron. With all that info, I 
> learned:
> 
> 1. the retrotek techs are nice, and the current main guy Bryce tries to be 
> helpful, although he did not solve my problems. he is actually mostly very 
> responsive to email and phone. And his online forum is apparently coming 
> very soon.
> 
> 2. my problem was a sticking idle air control plunger, which apparently is 
> common, but for some reason no one ever mentioned it to me. Did a lot of 
> looking and thinking to figure it out. not sure yet how long my fix will 
> work.
> 
> 3. the retrotek software and hardware are actually quite versatile, and I am 
> delighted with all the progress I have made. I consider myself over the 
> hump of learning. the car starts warm or cold with about one crank of the 
> engine, and it mostly idles well with its own "electronic choke" equivalent. 
> The driveability so far is great, although still working out a bunch of 
> kinks.
> 
> Conclusions on easy EFI systems (FAST EZ EFI, and retrotek): some people are 
> lucky and they just pop it on, and it just tunes itself and everything is 
> great. Some of us have a lot more issues, and to make it work, you probably 
> need to learn a lot of the technology. The knowledge is out there, and once 
> the knowldge is yours, wow -- there is a lot of fun things you can do.
> 
> But the companies dont make it easy for you -- there just are too many 
> variables for this to be totally do it yourself. But for me, I love the 
> challenge of creating solutions to problems - like creating my own cooling 
> system in the previous post. These EFI systems are complex enough to keep 
> the intellectually interested person busy for a long time. There is nothing 
> rudimentary or simple about these systems.
> 
> In conclusions, I have gained a lot of EFI knowledge. Feel free to send me 
> any questions about the FAST EZ EFI or powerjections systems -
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
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